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No one is losing sight of anything. If you are going to argue that people should expect to get stuck with defective records then please, don't post any further in this thread. And if some clarification would help then I am referring to records that are clearly damaged out of the jacket, have scratches, have gross pressing defects, or are warped.If you have some specific experience with reissue labels and would you like to share that then by all means please do so. And that would include your experiences with dealers and how they handle defective returns. That is what I started this thread for. Some reissue labels are doing a better job than others and some dealers are doing a better job than others...talking about it here is information that people can use.--Jerome
I just got back in to the vinyl camp in the past few months and the number of defective new pressings I've seen is disturbing. And they're not even pressed in China (yet). I think I have purchased about 20 new/sealed lps recently and the defective product rate is around 40% in my limited experience.
1. the pressing plants are sloppy and apparently exercise minimal quality control (Pallas excluded)
2. the distribution system is acting like a dictatorship and forcing the retailers to eat unquestionably defective product. Is this practice acceptable in any other industry? I think a lot of the retailers, the independents in particular, are already hanging on by a thread.
3. a number of retailers, in reaction to the above, do not want to accept returns of defective pressings. This is total BS.
Last years Fleet Foxes record is a perfect example, it sounds way better on CD.
What everyone is losing sight of is that has always been the way of the world with vinyl,it's an imperfect media. It's just unfortunate we're taking it on the chin at these prices...This is why vinyl has always been a love/hate thing and why I get grumpy when otherpeople in the industry just assume that because something is pressed on a slab of vinylit's going to be superior to digital. No one knows better than Kenreau that I'm totally committedto analog, but it can be frustrating!
Check who's mastering the records you're thinking about buying. If it's done by one of the five or six major guys, your chances are better that you'll get a good sounding record. Most of the indie stuff is produced in small studios with crap equipment. Chances of getting that stuff to sound awesome is slim to none. Last years Fleet Foxes record is a perfect example, it sounds way better on CD.
Sample #1 of Classic Records Pressing Defects on 200 Gram VinylSample #2 of Classic Records Pressing Defects on 200 Gram Vinyl--Jerome
I've yet to ever get a bad Classics LP, and I own many of them.
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