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« Reply #40 on: 22 Jul 2006, 05:24 pm »
Still listening and checking things out with different components.....wanted to post info link for 6moons comments....here.....and....here......now back to listening. :bounce:

I hope you bouncing because you are enjoying the cables. Anxious to hear your feedback. Keep :bounce:

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« Reply #41 on: 24 Jul 2006, 08:22 pm »
Dear All,

The shipment of Sufi speaker cable and some Mark II version interconnect models will be a little delayed due to my daughter's sudden operation on Friday. She is well now. I hope to send the cables not later than August 15. In the mean time I'm curious to hear the valuable feedback from Lonewolf.

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« Reply #42 on: 24 Jul 2006, 08:38 pm »
 Hello Sezai,
 I am sorry to hear about your medical emergency. I do hope everything is well in the end. Family first!

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« Reply #43 on: 24 Jul 2006, 08:54 pm »
Dear Bill,

Thank you. She is recovering. Well, she is also the braiding queen of SilverFi and my numero uno technician.

Warmest regards.

Sezai Saktanber

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« Reply #44 on: 24 Jul 2006, 09:15 pm »
Sezai, I too am sorry to hear about your family emergency. I am also pleased your daughter is recovering well. We can't have the braiding queen and numero uno technician of SilverFi down for too long. Let your daughter know that we wish her a speedy recovery.

Sincerely,

Marcus

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« Reply #45 on: 24 Jul 2006, 09:27 pm »
Marcus, thanks. Although she is the braiding artisan, I was not able to turn her in to an audiophile. For her, designing and painting comes first.

Sezai Saktanber

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« Reply #46 on: 24 Jul 2006, 09:34 pm »
Well it seems her labor shows love and respect for her father and his audio passion. A beautiful relationship, Sezai.

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« Reply #47 on: 25 Jul 2006, 06:43 am »
First....Thank you Sezai and Marcus for the chance to try the SilverFi IC's... :thumb:
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By the way, the Standard Version of the Elixir, Shaman, and Phyrigian ICs have been shipped to Lonewolf for auditon.
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In the mean time I'm curious to hear the valuable feedback from Lonewolf.
Ahh...some feedback. Nice cables !! 8)
What I have been doing is testing each pair...using it between a cdp and my amp. This way I can hear any difference's. I have the Elixir, the Shaman, and the Phrygian IC's (standard versions). I've used different music... rock...jazz...classical. As you switch between the three, you do hear a difference. Sounds get clearer, more detailed...good bass...lots of space. Right now , I prefer the Phrygian IC's.
Since I'll have the IC's another week, I'll match them up with more equipement, and compare them to other IC's I have on hand to see how they differ. A few name's VH Audio, Kimber, Zu, Ridge Street Audio.
So far....a nice product....light in weight....built very well....and from what I read (prices) - a good value, cost wise. :D
More in a few days....thanks again for running the audition tour here on AudioCircle.... :beer:
Chris
PS....I wish a quick recovery for you daughter Sezai....

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« Reply #48 on: 25 Jul 2006, 06:59 am »
Equipement I'll be using:
Amp's...Butler 2250, KR Audio AV320.
Preamp's.....Modwright, Bent.
Source.....Phillips CD-80, Olive Musica, EA modded Sony 7700, EA modded ECD-1 dac.
Speakers....Mirage M-3, Omega A8, Cadence Audio Avita.
Tara speaker cables....Black Sand power cords.

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« Reply #49 on: 28 Jul 2006, 04:41 am »
A short update...these are interesting IC's. Each is really different. In a past post, I said I was leaning towards the Phrygian IC. More listening, and I now prefer the Shaman...reason....a little more detail, and the bass seems stronger and a little cleaner on my system. Still just cdp, amp, speakers....so I can zero in on the sound, and not confuse the issue.
I have assembled other IC's to compare (5)...will do this over the weekend.....but I like what I hear. 8)
Chris

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« Reply #50 on: 30 Jul 2006, 08:01 pm »
 

Although all my cables are designed from the same aural perspective, I also try to answer system synergy issues (which i think is very important) coupled with the user's taste/preferences via different SilverFi IC and SC models such as Blue, Purple and Black Series; Standard, Mark I and Mark II versions. They are all close relatives and a musiclover may want to try different models according to the ever changing mood. That is more entertaining/functional and complementary for the musiclovers' soul.

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« Reply #51 on: 31 Jul 2006, 11:15 pm »
  although all my cables are designed from the same aural perspective, I also try to answer system synergy issues (which i think is very important) coupled with the user's taste/preferences with different IC and SC models such as blue and purple series; standard and markII versions. they are all close relatives and a musiclover may want to try different models according to the ever changing mood. that is more entertaining and complementary for the soul.

sezai saktanber
I agree Sezai. All three IC's of yours are very close in the way they sound. Picking the Shaman was the one that had the best balance in my test system. Your Phrygian IC gave me "too much of a good thing"...but their all very good IC's.
Almost finished....last few comparison's tonite and tomorrow....then I'll post what I heard. Thanks again for the audition. 8)
Chris

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« Reply #52 on: 8 Aug 2006, 01:15 am »
I've posted my comments on the SilverFi IC's....here..... :thumb:
The package has now been shipped to Texas...Art in Fort Worth. Happy listening !!!
Chris

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« Reply #53 on: 16 Aug 2006, 02:51 pm »
More feedback from SilverFi customer:
Hi again, Sezai,
.. You can listen to it  (Magician Mark I) after an initial 100 hours (break-in) and observe the changes.
    And very, very ready to listen to it is.... It may get better but it's terrific now. The major thing I like most about it is the sense that even percussion, even sound effects, have a musical pitch -- and thus, the music is helped, "semantically". The big, deep stage is wonderful, but that's something I had most of already --- that was the motivator that drove me to the Aural Thrills Active interconnect in the first place -- but the SilverFi cable has that too, is much richer while also sweeter and more realistic in the highs; but this "everything has a tone" effect is new to me, and is absolute catnip! Besides which, Mahler symphonies (#1, 4, 5 - Bernstein/DG) are handled gloriously well in those crescendos, which was my acid test: sooo clear! I'm enjoying my CD collection all over again, and more than ever, and the cable isn't even fully cooked yet . The effect at this point is to make me want more.
 
    I suspect I'm going to want the Andalusian cable, even though I haven't heard it yet, based on the idea that this "tonality" (am I using the term wrong?) is the major difference between the levels of the Purple series... Am I wrong? Certainly, "more revealing" is welcome too - see Mahler crescendos, above....
 
    Also, certainly, I now want the speaker cable that mates with my new system. Should I assume that the Sufi, which you mentioned before, goes with the Magician and the Hattusha goes with the Andalusian, or is there another consideration I should be aware of? Please put me on the order list, for 3-meter lengths. Will there be another double audition, or can we know the "right" speaker cable now, or in response to the current interconnect auditioning? At this point, I think I know what I want, but obviously your judgement in cables is superb, and should be taken!
 
    I really ought to register with Audio Circle, so I can write glowing testimonials for your products...
Your Magician's model is technically between "Standard" and "Mark II" versions. (You may call it "Mark I") But your initial impression shows that your system and aural taste is kind of  in harmony with SilverFi.
    It certainly seems to be!
I will decide on the version of your Andalusian IC after getting your feedback on Magician. That will be better.
I hope this helps, and
Thank you!
S."

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« Reply #54 on: 30 Aug 2006, 05:19 pm »
More Feedback on SilverFi cables:

MORE FROM SILVERFI USER S.O./RESTON-USA.
 
His system:
Opera Droplet as CD transport,
Feeding a Monarchy Audio M24 DAC and linestage,
Nuforce Ref 8. power amp
Speakers: Gallo Reference 3, on Brightstar stands.
 
The room is 17 feet x 14 feet x 8 feet, and well-damped.
 
 
1- ON MAGICIAN MARK I INTERCONNECT

"The Magician's bass is now blooming and thrilling through the Gallos, and I perceive both the quantity of bass and definition of bass as better than I'm used to... no mean feat, since the interconnect before the just-replaced one was Transparent Ultra MM, which is commonly thought of as having notable bass reproduction. That was before I put in the Monarchy M24 DAC, which may make some of that difference, but the Droplet's analog output was not bass-shy either....

If the Andalusian winds up putting out what I perceive as more "bloom" than Magician, I won't be bothered. What's already obvious is that, depending to some extent on the music, a little extent on my (USA big-city East Coast) power supply, and to a larger extent on my mood, there is no single Right Answer about the best bass. My only constant is - or was - the clarity of orchestral crescendos in large symphonies and operas. In that score, the Magician, burnt-in (?), is by far the best I've yet heard in my system... I can hardly wait to see how the Andalusian does in this aspect of music.

Thank you for making me listen more,
S.O.
 
 
2- ON PURPLE SERIES ANDALUSIAN MARK II INTERCONNECT
(AFTER 100 HOURS OR SO BREAK-IN)

I think the Andalusian has settled down enough to give some meaningful feedback. In fact, the first thing to note is that Andalusian seems to "cook" slower than Magician. Is that because of its couple of extra strands? In any event, it's ready to talk about, and it sounds beautiful.

Apparently that effect I noticed with Magician, wherein all sounds, including percussion strikes, seem to have a pitch or a musical key, is even a little stronger with Andalusian. I now believe that this is what the 6moons review calls "body", because my perception says this is what a "real one of those things" sounds like, and real ones in the concert hall do indeed have a musical quality, a "pitch", instead of just a snapping or banging sound. It took me a while to figure this out, because I always accepted the loss of various live listening qualities as a necessary aspect of hifi listening at home.... But now, for that quality at least, I guess not 8-).

In fact, what I started off thinking of as a "SilverFi house sound" is obviously just the fact that both Magician and Andalusian are objectively the best cables, by a significant margin, that I've ever had. I can say "objective" because if you look at almost any common adjective about recorded sound, "definition", "transparency", "tone", "PRaT", etc., these two cables exceed what I've heard in my system before... which has included some well-though-of cables, such as Transparent Ultra, Aural Thrills Active, MIT Shotgun, etc. So I think anybody who tries to describe your cables in hifi terms will actually wind up saying what he likes most about Music, with descriptions in his individual order of concerns about musical qualities! For me, that's "Clear clean crescendos where I can hear the whole orchestra instead of a thick smear, realistic dynamic range getting the diminuendos as well, melodic and rhythmic driving quality grabbing my emotions".... But these are the things that get my attention in Music, not hifi systems! Way to go, Sezai!

Now as to the difference between the Magician and Andalusian: I like both subjectively almost equally well, because the differences I hear between them are sonic rather than musical. For instance, I hear about the same thing you said with respect to tighter bass from Magician, and I also prefer that (I developed my hifi taste some years ago with the bass from Magneplanars and Quad 63's.... so give me bass without boxes!)... but with some music, and some of my moods, I'd like the more mellow impression that Andalusian leaves... massed strings sound slightly richer without losing any clarity at all. However, you were concerned that the Andalusian Mk. II might be "too revealing"... but, in my system, that translates to slightly clearer crescendos, which, with my taste for symphonies and operas, is purely a Good Thing. So, at this stage in their development, the Andalusian is, slightly, my first choice....probably...usually...maybe... . But the point is, it's no big deal. I love 'em both.

Is the Sufi (SC) going to multiply this impression?(*) Will everything have an even stronger key or pitch?? And leave me with even clearer, cleaner, and richer symphonic peaks? If so, that might make my heart explode. Perhaps in the key of B-Flat Minor... 8-)

S.O."
 
p.s. S.O. will be receiving his Sufi Dark SC pair in the beginning of September 06.

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« Reply #55 on: 8 Sep 2006, 02:38 am »
I have recently received the Magician Mark II IC's. I was really enjoying the Elixir Mark II ICs between my SAS 10A preamplifier and TRL Sony DVP-900v CD player. I really had high expectations from the Magician Mark II and was eager to replace the Elixir Mark II with the Magician Mark II. I have nearly 100Hrs of break-in on the Magician Mark IIs. Its no secret that I have praised Sezai's creations from the first time I heard his Standard ICs and speakers cables. I feel that are very special cables that offer a greater sense of realness than any cables I have ever heard and I have heard a good number of high quality cables. And considering the asking price of SilverFi's ICs, I think they have no equal and they compete with cables three times or more their asking price. Enough said.

Onto the Magician:

The Magician is my favorite IC from SilverFi and the Mark II version surprised me. :o I have gotten use to being surprised by Sezai and thought this time around I'd be prepared for a little better performance over the Elixir Mark II.  :scratch: How does he do it? The Magician Mark II is a revelation! The best IC I've heard to date. Compared to the excellent Elixir Mark II, the Magician has greater presence (a closeness nearing touching) and an openess and transparency that's spooky (as if the performance entered your room). Your ears sense the presence and your eyes are searching for the invisible intruders. The tonality is naturally rich with superb body and texture. Descriptors can't be dissected from the whole musical experience. I just want to listen and enjoy the moment. These cables are just right. They reveal all that you didn't think your components were capable of. A significant upgrade indeed. Call it Magic! An unbelievable experience that no words do justice. You have to experience it for yourself to appreciate the feeling. The Magician Mark II is a must audition. You'll understand only when you experience them.  

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« Reply #56 on: 10 Sep 2006, 04:13 pm »
Dear All,

First my thanks to Chris, Skip (S.O) and Marcus for their encouraging impressions.
SilverFi Cable introduces  a new series called Black Series Interconnects which offers three different models. .

BLACK SERIES INTERCONNECTS
Spirit IC
Sorcerer IC
Troian IC


SilverFi Cable will be having a new web site with nice photos (hopefully) before Christmas.

Warmest regards.

Sezai Saktanber
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« Reply #57 on: 29 Sep 2006, 11:59 am »
Dear All,
Skip (S.O. from Reston-Virginia) sends his latest impressions on SilverFi Sufi Dark1 speaker cable and other two Purple Series SilverFi interconnects. I tried to respond some of the issues he mentioned in his mail. I think this will give some valuable info on SilverFi speaker cables in general.

Regards.

S.S.


"Dear Sezai,

    The Sufi has cooked enough to discuss, and she's beautiful. The cable seems to be a great playmate for the interconnects, because she seems to complement them, rather than add new aspects to the sound. I think she opens a door for lower bass than my already-good Aural Thrills Active and Transparent Ultras did, and definitely more defined bass. Oddly, for a cable with "Dark" in its name, more high treble seems to come through also. Depth of imaging is, if possible, slightly better than the already-excellent Aural Thrills, which was why I had moved to that one from the Transparent in the first place.

    The whole system just sounds an increment more real... and a couple of increments more musical, which was my main wish.

    In the way of hard-to-describe aspects: several instruments sound distinctly more realistic, notably cellos, harps, and cymbals, which makes a real musical difference, not just a sonic one. Sufi's fondness for these instruments -- especially the cello -- improves a lot of the chamber music I listen to,  as well as the big, cymbal-crashing crescendos in operas and symphonies... but, what is it that these instruments have in common...? I'm complementing some aspect of Sufi's performance, but darned if I know what it is!

    As to whether the Andalusian Mark II or the Magician Mk I fits better with the Sufi: because of business trips and other work obligations, I haven't had time to do sufficient critical listening since the Sufi has matured, assuming it's pretty much done changing with cooking. The Magician is the one that needs another long listening-to before I decide. However, one thing is obvious: both interconnects are the best I've heard, differences and all, and I'm keeping both of them….

    A couple of questions: can you more or less objectively tell me what 'Dark' means in the context of Sufi? There is richness, but no diminution of treble that I hear, which is what the word implies; and in fact, the far treble seems a little more open than that of the rather bright Aural Thrills, although Sufi definitely isn't bright... it's really quite a sunny listening experience, as well as a richer one.

Appreciatively,
Skip"



"Dear Skip,
 
Thank you for your valuable feedback. Yes, you got it beatifully right. All SilverFi speaker cables are designed to work in tandem to reflect the intended sonic characteristics of the interconnects. They are true mirrors.  But as you have assessed they have wider frequency range, better dimensionality, musicality and realness compared to other good speaker cables.

   "In the way of hard-to-describe aspects: several instruments sound distinctly more realistic, notably cellos, harps, and cymbals, which makes a real musical difference, not just a sonic one. "  Earlier, if you remember you have said, when describing SilverFi products something like this:  "everyone is highlighting the most known or important aspect of the music (to his taste or terminology )when describing SilverFi products." In this perspective there are others (for me) which sound openly better and musical  like female and male vocals, string instruments like guitars and ouds saxs and clarinets. Others may add other instruments to this. I believe this originates from the more realistic  and organic nature of the cables with rich layers of harmonics of the instruments.
 
Your decision to keep both ic did not come as surprise, since myself also prefer to listen more than 2 interconnects in time.
 
Please think  "Dark and Lux" features as an incrementally changing hypothetical road. Lux is the Sunshine and Dark is the Moonshine side with very gradual changes. e.g. If you go for Dark2 or 3 you may have a little more soft or natural presentation with a degree of more bass without much effecting the transparency of the mid and high frequencies. But I believe that Dark1 is good for you. For Lux versions' assessment, Earlmarc's thread on Magician Mark II (audiocircle.com) in reference to Sun-Snow metaphor is very mind opening.
 
One last thing. I'm working on a new speaker cable topology to further the positive qualities of my speaker cables. I may say something solid after Christmas. But I am optimistic.
 
Warmest regards.
 
Sezai Saktanber
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« Reply #58 on: 29 Sep 2006, 06:53 pm »
Dear All,

SilverFi’s newly introduced top series Black Series Interconnects offer three different models namely Spirit, Troian and Sorcerer. Other than being “musical and resolving” which could be seen as  two mutually exclusive sets of qualifications Black Series have a unique feature:

It's a " 2 in 1 " interconnect.

Black Series interconnects are normally designed to be used as indicated:
"red shrink" side for input (Origin) and
"yellow-green shrink" side as output (Destination).


If the IC is used by reversing the cable (Input to Output) then you may have a cable with a different voicing (more bass and midrange layers/pixels).

Two sides (I/O) of the Black Series is like a Ying-Yang combo. Or you may call them Sun and Moon; Fire and Rain

Either way you may choose the best alternative for your taste/system/room.If you think any of the alternative side suits better to your taste or system/room better than the other way, then you may use it like that. My subjective selection in the context of my system and preferences goes for the standard mode.

Warmest regards.

Sezai Saktanber
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« Reply #59 on: 1 Oct 2006, 07:09 pm »
I have spent a few hours listening to the Black Series Spirit and Sorcerer IC's. The cables have just now started to open-up after about two days of burn-in. My early impressions compared to the MarkII Phyrigian/Magician are interesting. The Spirit/Sorcerer have a similar aural perspective to the MarkII P/M, however, they differ because they aren't as sweet initially, then you realize that their richness lay in a quiet composure that offers more detail with a better natural tone. The Black Series S/S remind me of a spring morning. The sunrise peaks over the horizon. The revealing sounds of a waking world greet you. You are refreshed by the morning dew and notice sights and sounds of life that go unnoticed in a normal day. These are early impression. I don't think the cables have broken in yet.