CDP-8/9

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Nidri17

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CDP-8/9
« on: 15 Aug 2017, 05:48 pm »
@rustydoglim,

Any news on the CD Players? Has an ETA been determined yet? CDP-8 would go nicely with my DAC-9..

Thanks.

rustydoglim

Re: CDP-8/9
« Reply #1 on: 15 Sep 2017, 04:25 pm »
Here's the product manual:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yaetqcwfvqvkgsw/CDP-9%20Manual.pdf?dl=0

CDP-9 MSRP $1695, shipping September 25 from factory, so if you place your order with dealer, we can drop ship directly to you.

rustydoglim

Re: CDP-8/9
« Reply #2 on: 15 Sep 2017, 04:27 pm »



rustydoglim

Re: CDP-8/9
« Reply #3 on: 15 Sep 2017, 04:28 pm »
The CDT-8 (CD Transport) is a pure transport and will be priced at $695 with coaxial and optical outputs.

Nidri17

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Re: CDP-8/9
« Reply #4 on: 15 Sep 2017, 06:53 pm »
 :D

Great news! Thank you for the update.

VintageFlanker

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Re: CDP-8/9
« Reply #5 on: 25 Sep 2017, 05:34 pm »
The CDT-8 (CD Transport) is a pure transport and will be priced at $695 with coaxial and optical outputs.

Hi,

Is there any plan the CDP8 will have a AES output? Unfortunately,  all digital inputs of my DAC 9 are busy but AES...

What are the performances of CDP9 against DAC 9 regarding the DAC and preamp functions? Thanks.

Best regards.

rustydoglim

Re: CDP-8/9
« Reply #6 on: 26 Sep 2017, 10:56 pm »
I would say the DAC inside CDP-9 is closer to DAC-10 in sound characteristic and overall performance.
I will check with engineering about the AES output for CDT-8.

VintageFlanker

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Re: CDP-8/9
« Reply #7 on: 26 Sep 2017, 11:49 pm »
I would say the DAC inside CDP-9 is closer to DAC-10 in sound characteristic and overall performance.
I will check with engineering about the AES output for CDT-8.

Thanks for that. I do think many users would look for an AES/EBU output for a CD transport.
 I read on a russian website that the CDP9 use a ES9028 DAC chip? Is that true?

No matter the cost: is the CDP 9 an upgrade (regarding DAC and preamp function) comparing to DAC-9? I mean: should I get a CDP-9 to replace my DAC-9 or planning to get a CDT8 as transport for my DAC-9? Thanks.

Best regards.

rustydoglim

Re: CDP-8/9
« Reply #8 on: 27 Sep 2017, 10:53 pm »
If you have DAC-9, wait for the CDT-9, unless you want to try different sound.
Before we go into the debate about DAC chips, I will state that the leading DAC chips from AKM and ESS have advanced so much that it is now just a matter of preference.  We experimented with various newer ESS chips (variants of 9028 and 9038) and find that they make little difference in sound. IDA-32 was planning to use 9038 but didn't sound as pleasing as 9028 so we went with 9028.  We could have used 9018 but then customers wanted the newer chip so fortunately 9028 sounded just as good as 9018.

Now with the back story out of the way, CDP-9 uses ESS9028.  ESS chips are more neutral than AKM that DAC-9 used.
On the website there is an FAQ about preamp and power supply now becoming the dominant factor in high end DAC performance.
CDP-9 over performance is closer to DAC-10 than DAC-9. 

VintageFlanker

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Re: CDP-8/9
« Reply #9 on: 27 Sep 2017, 11:41 pm »
On the website there is an FAQ about preamp and power supply now becoming the dominant factor in high end DAC performance.
CDP-9 over performance is closer to DAC-10 than DAC-9.

Thanks for all your answer. I'll wait the release of both CDP9 and CDT8 and going to try different setup, see what I prefer in terms of signature.

Speaking of power supply: it looks like the CDP9 don't have an IEC input. Does it mean this will come with separate PSU? Or maybe you plan to sell a "PSU-9" as an upgrade?

mresseguie

Re: CDP-8/9
« Reply #10 on: 28 Sep 2017, 02:00 pm »
If you have DAC-9, wait for the CDT-9, unless you want to try different sound.
Before we go into the debate about DAC chips, I will state that the leading DAC chips from AKM and ESS have advanced so much that it is now just a matter of preference.  We experimented with various newer ESS chips (variants of 9028 and 9038) and find that they make little difference in sound. IDA-32 was planning to use 9038 but didn't sound as pleasing as 9028 so we went with 9028.  We could have used 9018 but then customers wanted the newer chip so fortunately 9028 sounded just as good as 9018.

Now with the back story out of the way, CDP-9 uses ESS9028.  ESS chips are more neutral than AKM that DAC-9 used.
On the website there is an FAQ about preamp and power supply now becoming the dominant factor in high end DAC performance.
CDP-9 over performance is closer to DAC-10 than DAC-9.

IDA-32!?!?

 :hyper: :idea: :thumb:

Any more information available about this? Hoped for release dates?

Regards,

Michael

rustydoglim

Re: CDP-8/9
« Reply #11 on: 30 Sep 2017, 10:49 pm »
The CDP* use external power supply. You can possibly get your own power supply as long as it meets the spec. But we have no plan to sell a power supply separately for CDP*.  For custom accessories, we will make them available on www.nuoem.com

VintageFlanker

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Re: CDP-8/9
« Reply #12 on: 2 Oct 2017, 09:11 pm »
The CDP* use external power supply. You can possibly get your own power supply as long as it meets the spec. But we have no plan to sell a power supply separately for CDP*.  For custom accessories, we will make them available on www.nuoem.com

Sounds promising. I think I'm sold for the CDP-9, despite the huge price bump. Two last things:

- Any picture of the inside?
- Any date for release in EU?

Thanks for all.

pawsman

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Re: CDP-8/9
« Reply #13 on: 5 Oct 2017, 03:30 pm »
Jason,
Since the CDP-9 is a constant speed player, does it run the signal into a buffer?
I'm committed to the physical Redbook CD format, so the CDP-9 might be the ultimate
player for me. I'm definitely interested-

pawsman

rustydoglim

Re: CDP-8/9
« Reply #14 on: 5 Oct 2017, 08:19 pm »
There is a buffer.  I am not allowed to explain, but I can tell you that CDP-9 is comparable to high end CDPs that are currently selling for more than 2X the price, without even including the full featured DAC.
Distributors throughout Europe have placed (or are placing their orders) since CDP-9 just come out of production a few days ago.
You can find your country's distributor contact from the website, email or call them.

pawsman

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Re: CDP-8/9
« Reply #15 on: 6 Oct 2017, 12:22 am »
Jason,
Thanks, I've found a dealer who carries it. I've not seen any other CD player/DAC/preamp quite like it, you can even
connect a Blu-ray player via Digital Coax and use it as a stand-alone DAC, or use it as a DAC for a computer audio system
via USB port. My main interest is for Redbook CD playback which it would seem to excel at. A very versatile piece-

pawsman

VintageFlanker

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Re: CDP-8/9
« Reply #16 on: 6 Oct 2017, 11:26 am »
There is a buffer.  I am not allowed to explain, but I can tell you that CDP-9 is comparable to high end CDPs that are currently selling for more than 2X the price, without even including the full featured DAC.
Distributors throughout Europe have placed (or are placing their orders) since CDP-9 just come out of production a few days ago.
You can find your country's distributor contact from the website, email or call them.

I just mailed my supplier in France. The release is planned for 10/09.

By the way this Ad is not correct (About the bottom, wrong pictures of the other 9 units):


« Last Edit: 6 Oct 2017, 03:45 pm by VintageFlanker »

rustydoglim

Re: CDP-8/9
« Reply #17 on: 8 Oct 2017, 09:36 am »
Thanks for pointing out the error, I didn't check closely and my marketing manager made this mistake twice! Sigh. :duh:

VintageFlanker

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Re: CDP-8/9
« Reply #18 on: 15 Oct 2017, 03:47 pm »
No worries.

The silver version is listed here in France but not in stock yet.

May I ask again: any pictures of the inside? Thanks.

slash71

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Re: CDP-8/9
« Reply #19 on: 15 Oct 2017, 05:05 pm »
No worries.

The silver version is listed here in France but not in stock yet.

May I ask again: any pictures of the inside? Thanks.

+1 insideporn!  :lol: