Newbie Help - Ncore build

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Re: Newbie Help - Ncore build
« Reply #240 on: 28 Oct 2014, 10:39 am »
Can someone also point me in the direction of the wiring instructions necessary in order to build a switch in?

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« Reply #241 on: 28 Oct 2014, 10:58 am »
Can someone also point me in the direction of the wiring instructions necessary in order to build a switch in?

Do you want to completely disconnect the power, or use standby? SMPS standby, or nAMPON?

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« Reply #242 on: 28 Oct 2014, 11:01 am »
So I will be using a switch similar to this

http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?sku=1637577&CMP=i-bf9f-00001000

I cannot see any reason to go to the effort of a switch other than to completely disconnect as though it was on the IEC inlet itself.

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« Reply #243 on: 28 Oct 2014, 12:47 pm »
I cannot see any reason to go to the effort of a switch other than to completely disconnect as though it was on the IEC inlet itself.

I have a "proper" power switch on the back side of my amps - pretty much only for thunderstorms. Normally I use the smps standby to go into idle mode.

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Re: Newbie Help - Ncore build
« Reply #244 on: 28 Oct 2014, 01:28 pm »
How is SMPS standby wired?

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« Reply #245 on: 28 Oct 2014, 01:46 pm »
How is SMPS standby wired?

You need a separate low-power power supply. nAMPON is easier, it only takes a switch.

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Re: Newbie Help - Ncore build
« Reply #246 on: 28 Oct 2014, 01:54 pm »
Ok so it sounds like I want a complete off switch then. Presumably that's just a matter of wiring live and neutral through the switch?

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« Reply #247 on: 28 Oct 2014, 02:11 pm »
Ok so it sounds like I want a complete off switch then. Presumably that's just a matter of wiring live and neutral through the switch?

Yes.

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« Reply #248 on: 28 Oct 2014, 02:12 pm »
Easy peasy! In that sense I don't understand why anyone else pursues the other 2 more complicated options?

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« Reply #249 on: 1 Nov 2014, 07:04 am »
Next problem...I just bought these terminals and only just realised my silicon ray only have round holes in the back! How can I make that little nick required?!

http://www.wbt.de/index.php?eID=tx_nawsecuredl&u=0&file=fileadmin/content/products/polklemmen/datenblatt/WBT-0703_Cu__E.pdf&t=1414914213&hash=0467f4136567e31d714dbc4069ef637f784db682

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Re: Newbie Help - Ncore build
« Reply #250 on: 1 Nov 2014, 07:25 am »
I would use either a small metal file, or a dremel tool.

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« Reply #251 on: 1 Nov 2014, 07:35 am »
I am wondering whether I just just return them and use Neutrik Speakon instead. That can be done can't it?

I would have spades at my speaker end then reterminate my amp end of the cable with Speakon and then add speakon terminals to the amp

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« Reply #252 on: 1 Nov 2014, 08:01 am »
Coming from more of a pro audio background, I do prefer speakons. I wonder how many amps have burned because of shorts caused by sloppily done screw terminal connections...

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« Reply #253 on: 1 Nov 2014, 08:07 am »
Thanks Julf. I like the look of them.

Is there any benefit to using EMC XLR by the way?

http://www.neutrik.com/en/xlr/xlr-cable-connectors/emc-series/

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Re: Newbie Help - Ncore build
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« Reply #255 on: 1 Nov 2014, 09:11 am »
Is there any benefit to using EMC XLR by the way?

Not unless you are sharing your place with a ham radio operator... :)

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« Reply #256 on: 1 Nov 2014, 09:13 am »
Also, with Speakon, presumably I want 2 pole right?

Yes, if you have a standard, single-wired passive speaker. I have an active setup, so I use multipole ones.

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But its not clear to me how the 3 connection choices work. Anyone got any idea?

http://www.neutrik.co.uk/en-uk/speakon/speakon-chassis-connectors/nl2md-h

http://www.neutrik.co.uk/en-uk/speakon/speakon-chassis-connectors/nl2md-v

http://www.neutrik.co.uk/en-uk/speakon/speakon-chassis-connectors/nl2mp

You want the last one, it has normal solder lugs. The first two are for mounting directly to a printed circuit board. You can use them too, but soldering is a bit trickier.

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« Reply #257 on: 1 Nov 2014, 11:27 am »
Great thanks. So what does it look like from behind? Just two pins basically to connect my internal speaker wire too?

Although now I am confused - is this therefore a single connector per power amp?

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« Reply #258 on: 1 Nov 2014, 11:43 am »
Great thanks. So what does it look like from behind? Just two pins basically to connect my internal speaker wire too?

Yes.

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Although now I am confused - is this therefore a single connector per power amp?

Again yes.

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Re: Newbie Help - Ncore build
« Reply #259 on: 1 Nov 2014, 11:59 am »
Even better! Makes for a good design with these units given they want the internal cable spiraled