DAC-10, DAC-10H

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Re: DAC-10, DAC-10H
« Reply #40 on: 21 Apr 2015, 09:16 pm »
giordy60,

Have you noticed any sonic advantages from using the dampers/footers?

giordy60

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Re: DAC-10, DAC-10H
« Reply #41 on: 22 Apr 2015, 09:02 am »
since I use it I have never taken off.
in the next few days I will try.

John Casler

Re: DAC-10, DAC-10H
« Reply #42 on: 23 Apr 2015, 01:07 am »
I have noticed that both a Higher Current Power Cord, and Anti-Resonance Footers benefit the IDA-16, the DAC-10, and the ST-10.



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Re: DAC-10, DAC-10H
« Reply #43 on: 24 Apr 2015, 09:18 am »
This is a question from reviewer recently (review to be published soon).
Can you explain more details about the 4 different gain options? Curious what the levels are.

The 4 different gain options consist of 2 unit gain and 2 headphone gain.  Each with its own multiplier.  All gain level is specified below.
Note: Each gain control goes pass through an independent analog switch controller.  Also volume roll up from 0 to the selected volume for most comfort.  No sudden burst of sound.
See the table here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1hp6r5ug9i5ua4q/DAC-10-Gain-Design.jpg?dl=0

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Re: DAC-10, DAC-10H
« Reply #44 on: 6 May 2015, 03:17 am »
What is the difference between the DAC-10 and the DAC-10H? Both are mentioned on the website at different prices, but the description is only of the 10H.

Brad

Re: DAC-10, DAC-10H
« Reply #45 on: 6 May 2015, 03:27 am »
The 10H has a good built-in headphone amp

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Re: DAC-10, DAC-10H
« Reply #46 on: 6 May 2015, 03:54 am »
That's what I assumed, but I don't need that. Will wait to see what owners and reviewer say about the DAC.

Brad

Re: DAC-10, DAC-10H
« Reply #47 on: 6 May 2015, 01:34 pm »
I bought the DAC-10 for the same reason - don't need the headphone section.

So far so good  :thumb:, I've only had it in the system for about 10 days.

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Re: DAC-10, DAC-10H
« Reply #48 on: 6 May 2015, 01:41 pm »
Brad, What is the DAC-10 replacing, or what are you comparing it to?

rustydoglim

Re: DAC-10, DAC-10H
« Reply #49 on: 6 May 2015, 10:50 pm »
That's what I assumed, but I don't need that. Will wait to see what owners and reviewer say about the DAC.

The Inner Fidelity is coming out with a review. Oh man, they dig really deep into our design.
The Absolute Sound will also publish a review for DAC-10H and ST-10 soon.

I think with these two authoritative reviews we won't do any more, have to reserve for other products coming out. It is very difficult to arrange for reviews when we have new products coming out every month.

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Re: DAC-10, DAC-10H
« Reply #50 on: 6 May 2015, 11:35 pm »
Jason are the DAC's in the IDA-16 and the DAC-10 the same basic unit in terms of features and performance?

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Re: DAC-10, DAC-10H
« Reply #51 on: 8 May 2015, 07:16 pm »
the nuprime is an object very interesting, nothing shocking and they do not kill any giant is in a price range (1400-1700 euro) where there is a cut-throat competition, the DAC does not seem to give it colors bass in medium-high, I was looking for a dac considered that nothing should be added to the file I'm listening, he would (as possible) to listen to the files as the author (or the sound engineer) wanted them to be.
has 4 digital inputs (I use the sound system for the video) and two analog, then a device versatile enough, in short, without spending large sums for a dac, could be a good compromise price / performance, at last I have said from nuprime (as usual I break the boxes to get info that I find on the net) is likely (we are working) a development driver for mac osx in order to read in the native DSD256, when a house develops drivers for your devices the various know is (according mè) synonymous with reliability.
great nuprime on like
hello

rustydoglim

Re: DAC-10, DAC-10H
« Reply #52 on: 19 May 2015, 10:46 pm »
Gain control sets to LL ( Low gain for both Unit gain and Headphone gain (Vol @ 99)
Here's a table that shows DAC-10H super powerful and adjustable headphone amp outputs. It can be used to match and optimise literally any headphones on the market.

@           6.3mm headphone jack          4P XLR balance headphone (For borh R & L)
32 ohm   2000mW                                  4000mW (R ch) + 4000mw (L ch)
50 ohm   1300mW                                  2600mW (R ch) + 2600mW (R ch)
100 ohm   800mW                                  1600mW (R ch) + 1600mW (L ch)
300 ohm   310mW                                  620mW (R ch) + 620mW (L ch)
600 ohm   160mW                                  320mW (R ch) + 320mW (L ch)
If Gain control sets to HL (High gain for Unit gain & Low gain for Headphone gain) output values x 2
If Gain control sets to HH (High gain for Unit gain & High gain for headphone gain) output values x 4

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Re: DAC-10, DAC-10H
« Reply #53 on: 9 Jun 2015, 03:25 am »
Received my DAC-10 this morning and currently running it as a DAC/Preamp for now.  Even after only 12 hours very promising.

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Re: DAC-10, DAC-10H
« Reply #54 on: 18 Jun 2015, 09:11 pm »
Does the DAC-10 play SACD?

JackD

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Re: DAC-10, DAC-10H
« Reply #55 on: 18 Jun 2015, 09:32 pm »
As the SACD is recorded in DSD I would expect it would.

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Re: DAC-10, DAC-10H
« Reply #56 on: 16 Sep 2015, 08:00 am »
I bought the DAC-10 for the same reason - don't need the headphone section.

So far so good  :thumb:, I've only had it in the system for about 10 days.

Any updates on the DAC-10?

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Re: DAC-10, DAC-10H
« Reply #57 on: 16 Sep 2015, 01:05 pm »
Received my DAC-10 this morning and currently running it as a DAC/Preamp for now.  Even after only 12 hours very promising.

Has it gone from promising, to great yet?

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Re: DAC-10, DAC-10H
« Reply #58 on: 17 Sep 2015, 12:41 am »
I'm not going to use the term great, because when it comes to DAC's I think that description is probably best reserved for the likes of the Berkeley Reference, the Lampi Golden Gate and the Aqua La Scala.  The DAC-10 is a very good DAC and preamp that punches way above it's weight class and easily bested the W4S DAC-2 it replaced.  I also have in the main system a recently purchased Line Magnetic 502CA tube output DAC which is also very good, but different.  On well recorded works like Jazz from labels like Concord, Pablo, Blue Note and others plus well recorded rock like Steely Dan, the DAC-10 shines. On less well recorded material like much of the rock albums from the 70's and 80's that "old guys" like me grew up on the LM has the upper hand most of the time as it takes the edge off of material where both the artists and studio staff may have both been under the influence of something.  Prime examples are Led Zepplin, earlier Clapton and many others.  So in addition to two TT's I also have  two transports and both DAC's feeding a Modwright LS-100.  Hope this helps.

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Re: DAC-10, DAC-10H
« Reply #59 on: 17 Sep 2015, 01:59 am »
I'm not going to use the term great, because when it comes to DAC's I think that description is probably best reserved for the likes of the Berkeley Reference, the Lampi Golden Gate and the Aqua La Scala.  The DAC-10 is a very good DAC and preamp that punches way above it's weight class and easily bested the W4S DAC-2 it replaced.  I also have in the main system a recently purchased Line Magnetic 502CA tube output DAC which is also very good, but different.  On well recorded works like Jazz from labels like Concord, Pablo, Blue Note and others plus well recorded rock like Steely Dan, the DAC-10 shines. On less well recorded material like much of the rock albums from the 70's and 80's that "old guys" like me grew up on the LM has the upper hand most of the time as it takes the edge off of material where both the artists and studio staff may have both been under the influence of something.  Prime examples are Led Zepplin, earlier Clapton and many others.  So in addition to two TT's I also have  two transports and both DAC's feeding a Modwright LS-100.  Hope this helps.

Jack, Thanks for the update. How does the DAC-10 portray soundstage when the source has that information? Width and depth, does the LM better it significantly? How about information retrieval? Have you ever tried the DAC-10 as a line stage only?