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Title: ModWright Integrated
Post by: Toon on 14 Sep 2010, 03:33 am
Hi. I gather that you're working on an integrated amp - are you able to reveal some provisional specs, plus a projected date for general availability? And will it have a phono stage? Thanks
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 16 Sep 2010, 08:03 pm
Well, here is what is planned:

Hybrid integrated with SS rectified 6SN7 input driver stage.
200W Power @ 8 ohms.
Same chassis as LS 100 and KWA 100 - i.e. same dim's (17"x17"x5.5") - obviously different face and back plates.
Digital display for input select and volume control.
Digitally controlled analog volume control - including balance control.
Optional DAC or Phono upgrade.
Fully balanced operation.
Metal full-function remote control.
Pre-Outs.
R-Core power transformer.
Hi-current design able to drive low impedance loads.
Class A-A/B operation.

Haven't decided on BJT or MosFET OP devices yet.

Projected release date is CES 2011, but we shall see.

Thanks!

Dan
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: decal on 17 Sep 2010, 02:26 am
Now that's something I'd be interested in,except for the digital display.I prefer the look of your present equipment,clean and uncluttered.A phonostage would be great!!
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: Berto on 17 Sep 2010, 03:14 am
I'm guessing Dan would have a button to turn the display off unless one is adjusting volume. I miss having my digital display preamp, It was its solid color from far away unless i changed volume, very uncluttered looking, had dual display and remote and could balance the channels seperately.  The numbers were sweet since I had a better sense of a exact ideal volume as opposed to how many dots or notches the vol knob is up.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: dibber on 17 Sep 2010, 04:03 am
Hey Dan,

Been using the KWA100 for the last several months, love the power and warmth.  I suspect more than a few people on your tour will be reluctant to let it go.  I sure wouldn't!

-Dibber
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: Toon on 17 Sep 2010, 08:55 am
That's awesome - thanks Dan! If I could write my own spec for an ideal amplifier, that's pretty much it.  :thumb:

Incidentally, here's another vote in favour of a digital readout for the volume - when A/B comparing components, it's always helpful to be able to exactly replicate the output level.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: srb on 17 Sep 2010, 11:58 am
Dan,
 
I didn't see mention of an HT Bypass input in your planned feature list, as implemented in your preamp.  Will an HT Bypass input also be included in the integrated?
 
Steve
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 21 Sep 2010, 03:05 am
Thanks guys.  The design will use digital displays and HT/BP will also be included.

I am laying out the internals of the box right now and it is going to be TIGHT.  The 1200VA+ power transformer weighs over 22lb and is BIG.  I am certain that we can fit everything in and likely a DAC upgrade option also, but my guess is that phono will not likely be an option, unless it is a SS design and we shield it REALLY well.  The insides of an amp is a pretty hostile environment for the fragile signals of a phono stage.  I do believe that we will include the same discrete design Class A headphone amp (like LS 100) however.

Thanks for ALL of your input!

Dan
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: 04dgmsilv on 22 Nov 2010, 06:57 pm
Hi Dan

Interested if there has been any additional finalization of the plans for this integrated.  I know you have many irons in the fire, but inquiring minds want to know!  I'm considering downsizing my box count a bit over the next 6 mo. or so, and your integrated would likely be on my audition list.  Thanks!

Dan
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 7 Dec 2010, 09:48 pm
Hi guys, first all, this will not be complete until second quarter of 2011 some time.  I have too many irons on the fire and this project will be BRILLIANT before it is released.

Hybrid integrated with SS rectified 6SN7 input driver stage.
200W Power @ 8 ohms; 400W @ 4 ohms and can handle 2 ohm loads without issue.
Chassis design more like the KWA 150, but closer to 7"H, rather than the 9"H KWA 150 or 6"H KWA 100.  Modular AL plate design instead of formed metal for greater rigidity and aesthetics.
Digital display for input select and volume control (dimmable or defeatable).
Digitally controlled analog volume control - including balance control.
Optional DAC.
Fully balanced operation.
Metal full-function remote control.
Pre-Outs.
Toroidal power transformer.
Hi-current design able to drive low impedance loads.
Class A-A/B operation.
BJT OP devices.
Dual Mono design (one power transformer).

The design goal for this product is a one-box solution (with DAC option) that will give Class A sound without the need for a complex system.  Cabling will be reduced to a power cord, speaker cables and a digital cable (if using DAC), or a single pair of analog IC's from other source.

It will be a beautiful piece that will have high wife acceptance factor and will be sized such that it will fit into a dedicated audio rack or into a family entertainment center or other standard shelf.

This will be a high-end product!  Pricing is still TBD, because until the design is complete, I won't know our true costs.  Rather than design to a price-point, I have chosen to design to a PERFORMANCE point and then determine price based on actual cost.

Thank you all for your contributions and patience.  This design concept has morphed over time and I have been too busy to complete it in the time I anticipated.  GOOD things take time....and this will be a VERY GOOD THING!

Sincerely,

Dan W.
President,
ModWright Instruments Inc.
260.247.6688
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: groovybassist on 7 Dec 2010, 11:47 pm
Having now had the chance to enjoy the KWA100SE tour amp, this has definitely piqued my interest...
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: jriggy on 8 Dec 2010, 01:08 am
WoW! That sounds like it will be an incredible piece of gear.

Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: funkmonkey on 8 Dec 2010, 05:16 am
 :thumb:  Very interested in this one, Dan.  With the DAC option, this sounds like it will carve out a very nice niche for itself.  I'm glad that you are still making progress and will settle for nothing less than excellence!
Cheers-

ps. if you want any beta testers, I might be game.  :thumb:
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 9 Dec 2010, 06:06 am
Thanks, I will have a limited number of beta testers.  Please stay in touch!

Dan
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: hatehifi on 17 Dec 2010, 11:08 am
Hi Dan,

Just mailed re: CDP and visited here to find this good news!

As a long time Gryphon Tabu & Tabu Centruy owner (former sold for later now up for sale, BTW), as well as presently the Crayon CFA-1/40 (lots of current for its size!), Dayens Ampino (several mods), and Almarro A205A MKII (EL84), integrateds, I'd love to audition your Beta unit if you want to forward one to Europe. Present main speakers are Zu's Soul Superfly & Magnepan's 3.5R with 3.6R ribbon upgrade. As you may remember, I'm still big into vinyl (see lencoheaven.net) and use Gryphon's PS1 board as stand-alone with Christian Schulz' dual mono PS for phono, or the Crayon's (not bad either), to throw into the equation.

Best regards,
John
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 19 Dec 2010, 09:13 pm
Thank you!  I am approaching the deisgn of this integrated as a TRUE ACT OF LOVE AND PASSION!  I have been SO SLAMMED with end of year demand, pending CES and other issues that I have not made as much progress as I would like, but the chassis design, input circtuitry, power supply demands and choice of output devices have all been determined - at least for prototyping.  I also have a sample 1300VA power transforer (14Kg!).

I am shooting for end of Q2 for soonest release, but to be honest, it will NOT be released until I am certain that it is RIGHT.

I was uncertain how to approach this area of integrated products, vs. separates. My initial intent was a $4K-$5K product that would essentially be a combination of our LS 100/KWA 100 design but hybrid, with tube input stage.  I soon found that the hybrid design - done RIGHT - would add more cost than expected, i.e. transformer coupled, no capacitors in signal path, zero negative feedback, for purest signal path.  I also feel that the design should be min. 200W into 8 ohms and I plan to offer integral DAC for maximum integration.  Chassis will necessarily be very rigid to accmodate oversided power transformer. Ultimately, this will be a more expensive and higher-end product than initially anticipated.  It will be designed to be EXCEPTIONAL and the price will be determined by our end build cost. I  am not indicating that this will be a COST NOT OBJECT design with stratospheric retail price, just that it will be in a different price-point than our current 100 series products.

I plan for it to be not so much of an integrated amp as a central music playback piece, requiring only ONE pair of HIGH QUALITY speaker cables, ONW digital cable or pair of analog interconnects, ONE HIGH QUALITY power cord, and a great pair of speakers.  The DAC will allow for multiple digital inputs, including USB, SPDIF and AES/EBU(XLR).  There will also of course be line-inputs for phono and other analog sources, but the principle will be to simplify, integrate and provide the shortest signal path with the absolute purest and most musical sound possible.

Aesthetics will be EXEPTIONAL and WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) will be very high. Not to mention the lack of cabling and multiple boxes will please the wife also.  In its simplest form, the integrated amp could be fed digital from a central music server and you have at your fingertips, a library of potentially an unlimited library of music!

Thanks for all of your feedback and I will certainly contact beta testers when complete - and not JUST in the U.S.!

Dan Wright
President, ModWright Instruments Inc.
www.modwright.com
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: bummrush on 19 Dec 2010, 09:34 pm
Design to performace point is exactly what somebody does when they want to offer quality over quantity
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 19 Dec 2010, 09:56 pm
Agreed!  And that has ALWAYS been the focus of MWI!

I will never offer a product that I am not proud to put my name on! This means that it provides performance, value and QUALITY!

Sincerely,

Dan W.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: bummrush on 19 Dec 2010, 10:36 pm
Ah someday I will put it on my hi fi goal list.which begs the question how may design to price point and who designs to a performance point should be a question we ask when shopping for hi fi.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: jwes on 23 Dec 2010, 01:29 am
Hi Dan,

I know this goes agains the "one box" idea, but please humor me...  If we wanted to bi-amp, could we use the integrated on one side, with all the inputs and DAC, etc., and then one of your other amps for the other side?  It would probably require a match with the 150 or 100, but just curious.  This would allow a couple speaker possibilities I'm considering.  Thanks!!

Jim
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: celticsfan1 on 30 Dec 2010, 01:58 pm
How would it sound compared to a LS100 and KWA150 combination. Or would it be more similar to a LS100+KWA100?

thanks
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 4 Jan 2011, 03:25 am
It will actually be a new unit all together, but the design, while intended initially to sound like a LS 100 and KWA 100 together is more likely to sound like a LS 100 and KWA 150SE!

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 4 Jan 2011, 03:27 am
I know this goes agains the "one box" idea, but please humor me...  If we wanted to bi-amp, could we use the integrated on one side, with all the inputs and DAC, etc., and then one of your other amps for the other side?  It would probably require a match with the 150 or 100, but just curious.  This would allow a couple speaker possibilities I'm considering.  Thanks!!

I would have to consider that.  If you want to biamp, you are really better off with separates.  The Integrated is aimed at offering HIGH PERFORMANCE in an integrated solution.

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: Afterimage on 8 Jan 2011, 03:23 am
Will the optional DAC be the one from Alex Dondysh? 
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 12 Jan 2011, 08:33 pm
Alex Dondysh IS the engineer that I am contracting for our digital designs,  yes.  It will not be the SAME DAC as was built into the LS 36.5 'DM', but it will involve design by Alex Dondysh, yes.

Dan
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: Afterimage on 20 Mar 2011, 09:43 pm
Thank you!  I am approaching the deisgn of this integrated as a TRUE ACT OF LOVE AND PASSION!  I have been SO SLAMMED with end of year demand, pending CES and other issues that I have not made as much progress as I would like, but the chassis design, input circtuitry, power supply demands and choice of output devices have all been determined - at least for prototyping.  I also have a sample 1300VA power transforer (14Kg!).

I am shooting for end of Q2 for soonest release, but to be honest, it will NOT be released until I am certain that it is RIGHT.

I was uncertain how to approach this area of integrated products, vs. separates. My initial intent was a $4K-$5K product that would essentially be a combination of our LS 100/KWA 100 design but hybrid, with tube input stage.  I soon found that the hybrid design - done RIGHT - would add more cost than expected, i.e. transformer coupled, no capacitors in signal path, zero negative feedback, for purest signal path.  I also feel that the design should be min. 200W into 8 ohms and I plan to offer integral DAC for maximum integration.  Chassis will necessarily be very rigid to accmodate oversided power transformer. Ultimately, this will be a more expensive and higher-end product than initially anticipated.  It will be designed to be EXCEPTIONAL and the price will be determined by our end build cost. I  am not indicating that this will be a COST NOT OBJECT design with stratospheric retail price, just that it will be in a different price-point than our current 100 series products.

I plan for it to be not so much of an integrated amp as a central music playback piece, requiring only ONE pair of HIGH QUALITY speaker cables, ONW digital cable or pair of analog interconnects, ONE HIGH QUALITY power cord, and a great pair of speakers.  The DAC will allow for multiple digital inputs, including USB, SPDIF and AES/EBU(XLR).  There will also of course be line-inputs for phono and other analog sources, but the principle will be to simplify, integrate and provide the shortest signal path with the absolute purest and most musical sound possible.

Aesthetics will be EXEPTIONAL and WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) will be very high. Not to mention the lack of cabling and multiple boxes will please the wife also.  In its simplest form, the integrated amp could be fed digital from a central music server and you have at your fingertips, a library of potentially an unlimited library of music!

Thanks for all of your feedback and I will certainly contact beta testers when complete - and not JUST in the U.S.!

Dan Wright
President, ModWright Instruments Inc.
www.modwright.com

Just reading over this again and this seems like it will be an outstanding product.  I think many audiophiles would love to simplify their systems with a good looking piece (WAF) that is a one box solution.  It out to go over really well.  Of course the sonics have to be outstanding in order for one to make that jump.  Good luck on the project Dan.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: spike on 22 Mar 2011, 09:49 pm
For even higher sound quality, will there be an option for class-A operation (as opposed to class-AB) at the output stage?

Spike
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: adhesiv on 30 Mar 2011, 12:09 am
Hi Dan,

This sounds exactly like what i'm looking for. I'm right in the middle of a significant upgrade looking at a full swap out of my system (minus cables for now). Any idea on when you'll have another milestone update for us?

I've been considering VAC PHI 200, NAD Master Series M2, and LSA Signature. I've always been intrigued by your work having had one of your previous truth modded sources in my rig but have been clamoring for an integrated unit for a few years now.

Please keep me informed when this is ready for action...i think you may have just put my impulse of buying something now off until i see how this bad boy comes together. While I'm sure you have plenty of volunteers, i'm also happy to assist in any early listening trials out here in Southern California.

Keep up the great work and giant slaying... :D :D :D
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 30 Mar 2011, 06:43 pm
Thanks, we are still working on it and I will share information as it becomes available.  The scope has changed a couple of times.  At this point, it may be an all SS integrated and will be at an attractive price-point.

It WILL have digital display(s) and it will be 175W-200W/CH into 8 ohms.

More as soon as it becomes available...

Thanks!

Dan
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: groovybassist on 30 Mar 2011, 08:44 pm
I'm digging the idea of an "attractive price point" Modwright integrated.  I love/lust after the expensive stuff, but usually end up buying more mid-priced gear, so this is great news from my standpoint.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: funkmonkey on 31 Mar 2011, 05:43 am
Hey Dan, thanks for the update.  I also like the idea of a more affordable piece, but just hope that it would have enough ass to drive my HT3's!  Keep us posted as it develops.
Cheers
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 1 Apr 2011, 12:49 am
Thanks for the candid reply.  It WILL have power!  It seems that most modestly priced integrated amps don't provide much power.  My goal is to provide a HIGH POWER integrated that produces great sound AND at a reasonable price-point.

More as things develop!

Dan
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: jobyts on 2 Apr 2011, 01:14 am
Dan,

For a better sound quality, would you recommend

1. MAC mini -> OPPO BDP-95 Mod -> MW Integrated -> Daedalus 2.1 AP, or
2. MAC mini -> MW Integrated with DAC option -> Daedalus 2.1 AP

thanks,
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 3 Apr 2011, 10:00 pm
I would say that the integrated with DAC option would be the best solution.  It will offer the highest level of integration and the shortest signal path.

I can't say when the integrated will be going to market, but it WILL be this year.

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: jobyts on 19 Apr 2011, 06:42 pm
Dan,

Please keep enough vacant real estate for any future expansion. What if tomorrow you plan to put a mac mini itself inside the integrated as an add-on card? (seriously, could that be an option in far future, a mod MAC mini that fits inside the integrated?, or an add-on card that combines the audio essential parts of the macmini+MW dac?)

Is USB3 a future option for the high end audio? I would be happy if you could put few empty interface ports on the backplane for future expansion. A typical buyer of an integrated amp will not be happy to change the whole thing along with the fast changing digital end.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 20 Apr 2011, 04:45 pm
Hi, the design will include room for expansion to include AT least a DAC and I will also look at the possibility of at least a SS MM phono card.

I will NOT be putting an entire computer or any kind of computer processing board inside the unit however, as I do not feel that computers should be INSIDE of audio gear. Computers are GREAT music servers for quality outboard DACs however!

The DAC upgrade that I am planning WILL have USB input - that is a given.  I am giving thought to offering as much modularity as possible in our digital board designs, due to the rapid changing pace of digital audio.

Thanks,

Dan W.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: jobyts on 12 May 2011, 09:03 pm
Dan,

Any milestone update on the spec for us?

Thanks
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: jwes on 13 May 2011, 01:45 pm
It will actually be a new unit all together, but the design, while intended initially to sound like a LS 100 and KWA 100 together is more likely to sound like a LS 100 and KWA 150SE!

Thanks,

Dan

Is this level of performance still the plan or do you have to back off to lower the price?  Would love it as stated above and would help me sell off other gear with confidence that it's being replaced with high end sound...

Jim
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 15 May 2011, 07:12 pm
The design that we are pursuing at this point, will be at the $4.5K-$5K price-point and we will later pursue a higher-end unit at 2x that price point.  The current economy and state of the market (demand) dictates that this price-point is the right move for us at this time.

I have not anticipated release date for the new integrated yet.  I will release information on our website when we get there.

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: jwes on 29 May 2011, 08:12 pm
Understand.  The 3 relatively expensive boxes that this would replace does free up some funds but it's also good to have a choice of upgrading from a base model and assessing the value of the higher price point. 

On the other hand a 100/150SE combo is it's own kind of no-brainer.  :thumb:
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: bummrush on 29 May 2011, 08:44 pm
And back to power issue. You just can't have enough of it
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 2 Jun 2011, 03:20 am
Hi guys, the integrated project is proceeding.  I have hesitated to say much more about it until I was closer to completion.  Obviously it has taken longer than expected.

I will say this:

It will be 175W+ per channel.
It will be pure SS, not a hybrid.
It will have dual digital displays.
It will be the same size and styling as the KWA 100SE and LS 100.

Part of the delay has been because the scope of the design has changed several times.  I now have the scope finalized, features determined, design topology complete and we are moving towards completion of design and testing.

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: roadkingraw on 2 Jun 2011, 08:13 pm
Dan is DA MAN!
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: jwes on 3 Jun 2011, 02:19 am
Hi guys, the integrated project is proceeding.  I have hesitated to say much more about it until I was closer to completion.  Obviously it has taken longer than expected.

I will say this:

It will be 175W+ per channel.
It will be pure SS, not a hybrid.
It will have dual digital displays.
It will be the same size and styling as the KWA 100SE and LS 100.

Part of the delay has been because the scope of the design has changed several times.  I now have the scope finalized, features determined, design topology complete and we are moving towards completion of design and testing.

Thanks,

Dan

Thanks Dan.  Will the higher power/upgraded version necessarily be 2x price?  Was quite excited by the 100/150SE combo target that was one of the design scopes, since reduced for the market/economy.  I actually don't care if it stay SS or is Hybrid, but just looking for that one special piece to be fully confident to eliminate boxes (and comfortably drive my 4 Ohm, 87db speakers)...

Jim
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 4 Jun 2011, 07:24 am
Goal for price is < $5K for SS  integrated.  Optional DAC and Phono upgrades extra.

Thanks!

Dan
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: jwes on 5 Jun 2011, 02:30 pm
Goal for price is < $5K for SS  integrated.  Optional DAC and Phono upgrades extra.

Thanks!

Dan

Looks like the show is going well - congratulations!  Is there going to be an upgraded version of the integrated?
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: johzel on 5 Jun 2011, 03:29 pm
Definitely a piece I'd be interested in!!   :thumb:  HT Bypass??  Did I miss that elsewhere in the thread??
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 11 Jun 2011, 12:15 am
HT bypass yes.  It will be a gret unit!

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 29 Jul 2011, 05:03 pm
Yes, it does have a preamp output, which would allow for precisely this!

Thanks,

Dan
Title: KWI Prelim. photo as promised!
Post by: modwright on 29 Jul 2011, 05:14 pm
Here is a photo of what the design will look like.  There may be minor cosmetic changes, based on feedback from distributors and dealers that I meet while in Asia, but here is a pre-view of what we have in prototype form!


(http://www.modwright.com/images/photos/106/normal/kwi_200_photo.jpg)

PLEASE NOTE:  Production is not planned for late Oct., as we have to order metalwork after overall design details are finalized, but I DO have a working prototype that is beautiful, powerful and we are very excited!

Thanks,

Dan W.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: Phil A on 29 Jul 2011, 05:21 pm
Dan - very nice looking piece!
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: AB on 29 Jul 2011, 07:12 pm
I like the bevel on the knobs and on the recesses of the push buttons. Have you considered carrying that bevel into the LED windows? Just an idea.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: srb on 29 Jul 2011, 07:22 pm
I like the bevel on the knobs and on the recesses of the push buttons. Have you considered carrying that bevel into the LED windows? Just an idea.

I see a smaller but tasteful bevel on the display windows viewing the photo on my computer screen.
 
Steve
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: Cacophonix on 29 Jul 2011, 07:32 pm
Very nice.
Probably one of the classiest cases around.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: srb on 29 Jul 2011, 07:36 pm
Dan,
 
Is Input Selection via relays at the inputs or are they actually routed through the selector switch?
 
Steve
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: jwes on 29 Jul 2011, 07:45 pm
Can't wait to learn more.  I'm hoping it allows me to sell 3 boxes and purchase this one!  Will depend on power, DAC, etc. 

Very nice looking!

Jim
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: AB on 29 Jul 2011, 08:02 pm

I see a smaller but tasteful bevel on the display windows viewing the photo on my computer screen.
 
Steve

I see that bevel too. I was imagining a bit more.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 30 Jul 2011, 04:13 am
I have considered matching the bevel (chamfer) on the knobs with the display window openings.

The inputs are selected via relay and both knobs are rotary encoders, i.e. electronically controlled via Programmable IC (PIC), not mechanical selector or volume pot.  Volume control is via new digitally controlled analog volume control that allows different gain and attenuation for different inputs.

The unit will have gain for CD, L1, L2 and custom gain for phono 1, phono 2 (MM/MC) and DAC 1, DAC 2 - likely SPDIF and USB.

Only two buttons on front are power and HT Bypass.

Uses same remote as LS 100.  Includes remote triggers and preamp-output as well as theater bypass of course.

Power is 200W into 8 ohms and 400W into 4 ohms.

First working unit is 'idling' on my bench as I write this as I am optimizing the bias setting.  There are a few things to finalize, but we DO have a working first article and this is exciting.

Thank you all for complements on the chassis design.  A lot of thought went into it from a form/function aspect.  I also want it to be family friendly as an integrated is ideal for the audiophile with dedicated system OR family music system.  It is pure SS and the controls are simple and intuitive.

Take care, getting ready to leave for HK on Monday Aug. 1st.

Dan Wright
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: jriggy on 30 Jul 2011, 11:00 pm
Nice!

 I love the "family Friendly" approach. If and when our attic project gets going and the big system goes upstairs, this would be perfect for my "wife friendly" living room system... with a pair of Carbon 7's, would be just about right!
I too look forward to this unit.

Dan, you mentioned production is not scheduled for late Oct. Did you mean is now scheduled for then or another time?
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 1 Aug 2011, 01:13 pm
Hi and thanks, this IS a great unit and will serve the need for an integrated with excellent sound AND power well!

It will be shipping in late Oct., because it takes that long to have the final production run of metalwork and other things done.  In the time while that is being finalized, we will also be further testing and listening to our initial prototype(s) and finalizing programming (display, options, etc.) and other areas if operation and overall sound.

It takes TIME to design and test a product AND time for production of the materials to make it happen.

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: jwes on 1 Aug 2011, 03:33 pm
Dan,

What pair of separates in your stable would most closely compare with the integrated's sound?

Jim
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: funkmonkey on 2 Aug 2011, 04:16 am
 :thumb:  Looks great Dan!   :thumb:  Will it be available in black, too?
Title: Re: KWI Prelim. photo as promised!
Post by: rajesh on 2 Aug 2011, 06:11 am
Here is a photo of what the design will look like.  There may be minor cosmetic changes, based on feedback from distributors and dealers that I meet while in Asia, but here is a pre-view of what we have in prototype form!


(http://www.modwright.com/images/photos/106/normal/kwi_200_photo.jpg)

PLEASE NOTE:  Production is not planned for late Oct., as we have to order metalwork after overall design details are finalized, but I DO have a working prototype that is beautiful, powerful and we are very excited!

Thanks,

Dan W.
Sure it has oodles of WAF (wife acceptance factor) What about AF (Affordability Factor) :roll: :roll:
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: Bill Baker on 3 Aug 2011, 03:00 am
Very sharp looking unit with well selected features. Congrats on what is sure to be another great product in the MWI lineup.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: skunark on 3 Aug 2011, 04:57 am
Very nice looking design. Since there are no options for a DAC and headphone plug will there be external options?   
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: Phil A on 3 Aug 2011, 10:37 am
Dan's price goals and available extras were listed in post 44 and following - http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=85814.40
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 21 Aug 2011, 08:21 pm
OK guys, final price set for KWI 200 = $4995.

Full production shipping in late Oct.  We will have at LEAST one unit at RMAF.

It has turned out to be EXCEPTIONAL and is the ideal integrated solution to provide both simplicity, power and beautiful sound.

Thanks for those who have kept up with this and have been awaiting this announcement.

Sincerely,

Dan
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: johzel on 25 Aug 2011, 12:52 pm
OK guys, final price set for KWI 200 = $4995.

Full production shipping in late Oct.  We will have at LEAST one unit at RMAF.

It has turned out to be EXCEPTIONAL and is the ideal integrated solution to provide both simplicity, power and beautiful sound.

Thanks for those who have kept up with this and have been awaiting this announcement.

Sincerely,

Dan

Dan, options to include a DAC and Phono Stage?  Is that correct? 
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: jwes on 25 Aug 2011, 10:50 pm
OK guys, final price set for KWI 200 = $4995.

Full production shipping in late Oct.  We will have at LEAST one unit at RMAF.

It has turned out to be EXCEPTIONAL and is the ideal integrated solution to provide both simplicity, power and beautiful sound.

Thanks for those who have kept up with this and have been awaiting this announcement.

Sincerely,

Dan

Thanks Dan,

What do you think it sounds like relative to your various separates?  At one point I think you were shooting for a sound like the latest pre plus a 150SE, but then scaled back due to the end customer price that would create.  Where do you think you ended up?

Thanks!

Jim
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 28 Aug 2011, 07:12 pm
Hi guys, options to include DAC and phono as upgrade options, yes.  DAC will be USB 24/192 and RCA input.

Sonically, I belive the integrated will be just behind the LS 100 and KWA 100SE, but with more power.  It has no tubes of course.  It is a great sounding product and offers one of the best values in Integrateds available on the market.

The LS 100 w/KWA 100SE combo, for more money, WILL sound a little better.

My initial goal would have cost over $10K and I didnt' feel that this was the best time to offer such a product.

I am working to wring EVERY bit of sonic goodness out of this design.

I am confident that everyone will be VERY pleased.

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: USB Input
Post by: Russ on 13 Sep 2011, 02:10 pm
Hi Dan,

Will the USB input be asynchronous?  Also, as new technologies emerge (such as DXD and DSD,) will the DAC be easily replaceable?

Thanks,

Russ...
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 13 Sep 2011, 03:09 pm
DAC will be Asynch. USB.  The digital module is designed such that different DAC chips can be used and upgraded.  The design will accept up to 24/192 data.  The DACs used will be capable of accepting DSD data.  As new tech develops, we will offer an upgrade path for our DAC module.

Obviously the DAC design is still in final stages of design.  It uses a proprietary precision oscillator circuit, rather than a simple crystal oscillator or simple clock design to offer EXCEPTIONALLY low jitter levels.  We have invested in high-level programming and proprietary jitter reduction circuitry and will use the DAC chip that we feel sounds best.

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: Russ on 13 Sep 2011, 06:40 pm
DAC will be Asynch. USB.  The digital module is designed such that different DAC chips can be used and upgraded.  The design will accept up to 24/192 data.  The DACs used will be capable of accepting DSD data.  As new tech develops, we will offer an upgrade path for our DAC module.

Obviously the DAC design is still in final stages of design.  It uses a proprietary precision oscillator circuit, rather than a simple crystal oscillator or simple clock design to offer EXCEPTIONALLY low jitter levels.  We have invested in high-level programming and proprietary jitter reduction circuitry and will use the DAC chip that we feel sounds best.

Thanks,

Dan
Thanks for the response.  That's what I wanted to hear! Another question:  Will there be an IR input on the back panel?

Thanks,

Russ...
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 14 Sep 2011, 03:48 am
Hi Russ, not sure what you mean by IR input?  The Integrated has remote trigger outs.  Are you asking if the standalone DAC will have trigger inputs?

Please explain.

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: ted_b on 14 Sep 2011, 04:14 am
Dan, I'm pretty sure he means a 2.5MM mono miniplug input for remote IR repeater  (just in case one were to put the amp in an equipment cabinet and not have line-of-sight IR remote control use).
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: Russ on 14 Sep 2011, 01:31 pm
Dan, I'm pretty sure he means a 2.5MM mono miniplug input for remote IR repeater  (just in case one were to put the amp in an equipment cabinet and not have line-of-sight IR remote control use).
That's exactly it.  My system is in the middle of my studio apartment, but IR remotes are hit and miss depending on where I am.  IR repeaters are less reliable than a Xantech-type miniplug connection on the rear panel.  Also, IR repeaters are simply not attractive hanging from the front panel of a beautiful piece of equipment like a ModWright.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: Phil A on 14 Sep 2011, 04:06 pm
They also have those pyramid repeaters with a sending and receiving unit that are not overly expensive (about $40).  My bedroom system backs to the main system and while I don't use it often I have a unit in line of site (on the other side of the room) of the equipment and I can be in the other room and control it.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: Phil A on 14 Sep 2011, 04:14 pm
You can actually see the repeater (behind the little LCD TV I use to read DVD-A menus among other things) which has line of site to the equipment on the other side of the room in the picture below.  I have the other unit that connects to it on the wall behind the speakers so I can play back a source in the main system in the bedroom system.


(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=19403)
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 15 Sep 2011, 04:49 pm
Thanks, I understand now.  I have already ordered the chassis and metalwork, but this could be accomplished by a simple hole that we machin in the rear of the chassis.

The only other concern is where and how to route the 'noisy' control signals and where to mount it.  I will consider this as we have greater flexibility in revising PCB's than chassis and obviously the chassis revision would not be difficult.

This is a very good suggestion and I will consider it for developement of all future products.  I will also assess feasibility of doing so for the KWI 200.

Thanks,

Dan W.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: Afterimage on 4 Mar 2012, 09:21 am
So far I have not seen any user feedback on this unit.  Anyone hear one yet that can provide their impressions?
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 11 Mar 2012, 07:39 pm
This may be because it was a bit slow to get out of the gate.  A number have been shipped to Asia, France, Belgium, Vietnam, Singapore, NL, etc.

It has been reviewed in France's 'Haute Fidelite' where it received 6/6 stars!
It has also been reviewed in both HiFi Review and Audio Technique, in HK.
A review is in the works for Australia's print audipohile magazine.
Vietnam has reviews in at least one magazine.
We have a review lined up with Home Theater Review.
See show coverage in the current issue of Absolute Sound!

I expect this product to be one of our BEST SELLERS this year!

The unit will be shipping with 24/192 USB/SPDIF fully asynch. DAC in 1-2 weeks!

Thanks!

Dan
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: xavaudio on 31 Mar 2012, 02:14 pm
Dan,

I am a French owner of the KWI200. I have also an stock oppo 95 as source.

I have 5 questions:
 - How sound KWI+DAC upgrade vs 95 stock  vs oppo 95 mod (solide state or tube) ?
 - To install dac upgrade, a local French Technical Service could do that it's necessary in your factory...
 - How many inputs there are on the DAC others than the USB ? only one  :? or two  8) ?
 - Oppo 95 is an SACD player...the DAC upgrade could decode direct DSD signal  8) or it is necessary to do PCM convert in the oppo 95  :? ?
 
- And finally is the DAC upgrade available today ? 
 
  Thanks


Xavier



 
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: Afterimage on 4 Apr 2012, 07:36 am
Dan,

I am a French owner of the KWI200. I have also an stock oppo 95 as source.

I have 5 questions:
 - How sound KWI+DAC upgrade vs 95 stock  vs oppo 95 mod (solide state or tube) ?
 - To install dac upgrade, a local French Technical Service could do that it's necessary in your factory...
 - How many inputs there are on the DAC others than the USB ? only one  :? or two  8) ?
 - Oppo 95 is an SACD player...the DAC upgrade could decode direct DSD signal  8) or it is necessary to do PCM convert in the oppo 95  :? ?
 
- And finally is the DAC upgrade available today ? 
 
  Thanks


Xavier

Hi Xavier.  How do you like this integrated?  Did it sound pretty good out of the box and did it get better with burn in?  Are you familiar with a French speaker line called Atohm?  I see the KWI 200 was driving those at a show in Europe. 
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 15 Apr 2012, 08:38 pm
The DAC upgrade features RCA and USB only.  It is possible that it could be installed by a local French Technician.  I would have all individual components built and wiring prepped for install.  It is a bit more involved than it sounds.  I will post photos soon.

Thanks!

Dan
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: xavaudio on 17 Apr 2012, 10:15 pm
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How do you like this integrated?  Did it sound pretty good out of the box and did it get better with burn in?

The kwi replace a passive preamp+150W tube mono amp (Cayin 800 MK).
out of the box, i could say that i have 80% of music of my previous config:
+ More detail than tube
+ Very good medium (near tube) and very subtil and defined treble
- not so immersive sound
- not so dynamic that i could awaiting for 200W amp (i have heard 30 w class A with more dynamic for exemple)

Now, after burning... and mainly optimization i have 120% of my previous config !

I have had decoupling feet under the kwi:
  + increase of the spectrum response : more bass, more tremble
  + more details in medium and more dynamics response
...If you compare KWI with other modwrigth amp: they have already spike !

I have upgrade power cord. I have very good result with Wireworld Electra 5.2. I have test Supra, and the sound was less natural...and speed !
   + I have the feeling that the sound is louder  and more immersive !
   + the bass are deeper and more dynamic
   + a sound more and more detailed and extended with no hash and excessive brilliance.

Finally I have the overall presentation of the tube sound with all the details and extension of a good transistor amp. But i think Moseft amp performance are very sensitive to the quality of the power line whereas tube amp with transformer/high voltage were less impacted...
But with some attention to finalize the installation, the performance could be better than a good tube amp.

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Are you familiar with a French speaker line called Atohm?  I see the KWI 200 was driving those at a show in Europe.
I have also heard many time Atohm speaker. Very impressive sound : good bass extension and very dynamic and full medium... but i think the tremble is not extended and subtle as my current speaker (BW 805 Diamond).

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I would have all individual components built and wiring prepped for install.

Dan, when do you think the upgrade kit will be ready !

 






 


 









Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 4 May 2012, 03:39 am
Hi and thank you for your positive feedback, RE the KWI 200!

We are now shipping units with DAC and Phono options installed.  They are not a user-installable upgrade, but I can speak with our distributor about the feasibility of having the upgrade installed by a factory authorized technician.

i am glad that you mention the VALUE and IMPORTANCE of burn-in.  The units DO take some time to burn in and the performance improves DRAMATICLY over this time!

Sincerely,

Dan W.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: ted_b on 4 May 2012, 03:45 am
Dan,
BTW, teajay (Terry) LOVES the integrated, and says it is an amazing marriage with the smaller Aerial Acoustic 5B's he's mated it with in his upstairs setup.   I can only imagine what it would sound like with Michael's new 6T's he's going to introduce soon!  I'm heading to tejay's next week to listen to his setup.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: johzel on 4 May 2012, 12:52 pm
A couple of pictures of the Phono Stage I had added to my integrated. The phono stage comes into the unit in the lower left portion of the 2nd picture.  Sounds terrific as does this integrated.  It's an amazing piece of equipment - couldn't be happier. Thanks Dan!! 


(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=62264)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=62265)
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: Afterimage on 4 May 2012, 11:29 pm
Hi and thank you for your positive feedback, RE the KWI 200!

We are now shipping units with DAC and Phono options installed.  They are not a user-installable upgrade, but I can speak with our distributor about the feasibility of having the upgrade installed by a factory authorized technician.

i am glad that you mention the VALUE and IMPORTANCE of burn-in.  The units DO take some time to burn in and the performance improves DRAMATICLY over this time!

Sincerely,

Dan W.

Yes on the burn in with these units.  After the 400 hr. mark they really start to open up.  Before anyone says it is just my ears adjusting to the sound, about every other day I put in two other integrated amps for back and forth comparisons.  The other two units were fully burned in and their sound remained unchanged.  At first, the ModWight lagged in few areas, but never sounded bad by any stretch.  Over time and especially after the 400 hour point, the spacing on and the extension on the KWI 200 kept getting better and better. 
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 5 May 2012, 02:37 am
Thanks guys!  Thisnisna product thatnwenhave all worked so hard on and that I am so excited about!

It archives all of my goals:

POWER
FLEXIBILITY/INTEGRATION
AESTHETCS
MUSICALITY
EASE OF USE
CLEAN LOOK AND CONTROLS
INCLUSION OF BOTH INTEGRAL ANALOG AND DIGITAL SOURCES.

I believe that we have hit the mark and you will see and hear more and more about it this year!

Check is out at the NewPort Beach show and check out our post about showmdemos!

Thanks,

Dan



Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: jobyts on 5 May 2012, 11:21 pm
Is it possible to use an iphone/android universal remote application for the metal remote control?
If not now, is that going to be a possibility in the future?
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 9 May 2012, 04:44 pm
Hi, good suggestion.  It would require a specific app to be written, and I am not a programmer.  There may be apps already out there that can emulate 'Universal' remotes.  The remote input is still IR, so I am not sure how that would work from the phone.

I know that Logitech has made this possible, but I a not sure if they are using bluetooth tech or what, to accept the signal from the phone.  To the best of my knowledge, the smart phones, pads, etc., don't output an IR signal, but I could be wrong.

Thanks!

Dan
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: ted_b on 9 May 2012, 05:02 pm
Hi, good suggestion.  It would require a specific app to be written, and I am not a programmer.  There may be apps already out there that can emulate 'Universal' remotes.  The remote input is still IR, so I am not sure how that would work from the phone.

I know that Logitech has made this possible, but I a not sure if they are using bluetooth tech or what, to accept the signal from the phone.  To the best of my knowledge, the smart phones, pads, etc., don't output an IR signal, but I could be wrong.

Thanks!

Dan

There are add-ons to wifi devices like the iphone/ipad, etc that convert wifi to IR in one way or another, be it dongles on the phone device or whole system gateways to do the conversion.  These systems come from places like RedEye, iRule, etc.  It's a fairly major commitment (not necessarily dollar-wise, although not $10, but time and system-control wise).  Otherwise, the IR commands are easily captured by a universal remote, of course.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: wilsynet on 9 May 2012, 07:53 pm
Hi, good suggestion.  It would require a specific app to be written, and I am not a programmer.  There may be apps already out there that can emulate 'Universal' remotes.  The remote input is still IR, so I am not sure how that would work from the phone.

I believe the person posing the question already has an iPhone enabled IR based remote control in mind.  The app has already been written to control an external device which has IR capability, either through the microphone jack or using a WiFi network.  For example:

http://thinkflood.com/products/

But when he buys a universal remote + iPhone solution, they usually present well known selections like Denon, Marantz, Pioneer, etc., and presumably not Modwright.

Worst case, a number of these universal remote controls (iPhone enabled or not) have a learning mode.  Turn it on learning mode, point the Modwright remote control at the IR device, and voila.  So it should definitely work so long as the universal remote solution has a learning mode.

Alternatively, does the Modwright IR controls emulate another well known device?  This would be easiest of all.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 9 May 2012, 11:06 pm
Understood. I will speak with my programmer about what 'code' he used for the remote.  Most use codes that are common to known mfr. devices.  This way, a learning remote CAN be made to work.

I will see what I can find out.

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 13 May 2012, 03:23 am
I have done some more research into the ipad/ipod/droid remote control option for the KWI 200.  I also spoke with another industry professional who says that a friend of his has successfully done this for his products (not Marantz, Denon, etc., but a unique brand like ModWright) and the app he chose (not sure of exact app, but sounds like they chose the RedEye mini dongle.  He mentioned that it plugged into the headphone jack, so I believe this is the dongle used.

The app allows complete learning capability as well as customization of the buttons and entire look of the 'virtual remote' to match the look of his unique product remote.  I am going to experiment with a few apps and see which works best with our KWI 200.

I like the RedEye mini ($45) for the IR dongle, because it frees up the charging port and is small.

My intent is to have a MWI remote on our iPad and also configure the iPad to allow us to control all music used at the NewPort Show.  I am showing with Lou of Daedalus Audio Loudspeakers and he will be bringing a HD full of Mac format music and I will have a PC with music in PC encoded (FLAC/WAV) formats.  The idea is to use the iPad as the central remote control and music library access point also, to show the beauty and strengths of our KWI 200 integrated with DAC and Phono.

We are bringing a LS 100 tube preamp with DAC, a KWI 200 with DAC and Phono upgrades, a VPI Classic I TT with Dynavector 20XH cart and a modified Oppo BDP-95.  All will feed the KWI 200 of course.  The Oppo will be used to play customer CD's, feeding the KWI 200 DAC and for playing SACD's.  The LS 100 with DAC will be used as a third digital input and also to show the strengths of the LS 100 w/DAC (using the KWI 200 as a straight amp, via Home Theater Bypass Input).

VPI Classic I, will feed KWI 200 Phono input.  My computer will feed the KWI 200 USB input. The SPDIF (RCA) digital out of the modified Oppo will feed the KWI 200 SPDIF (RCA) input.  The analog outs from the Oppo will feed the CD input of the KWI 200.  Lou's Mac will be networked to a Bolder Cable hot-rodded Logitech Touch, that will act as transport for his music library.  This will feed the LS 100 SPDIF (RCA) input.

To simplify....also to illustrate the beauty and flexibility of a GOOD Integrated amp like the KWI 200!

KWI 200 Inputs:
CD = ModWright Modified Oppo 95 for SACD via Stereo analog outs (RCA).
L1 = not used (RCA).
L2 = not used (RCA).
L3 = not used (XLR).
d1 = USB digital input from ModWright's PC with FLAC/WAV files.
d2 = RCA digital input from Oppo 95.
PH = Phono input from VPI Classic I.
BP = LS 100 tube preamp with built-in DAC, fed RCA digital signal, into KWI 200 HTBP (Home Theater Bypass - RCA).


Cabling will be by WyWires, with the exception of Speaker Cables, where we will be using Daedalus Audio's own speaker cables.

Our intent for the NewPort Beach show, is display a fully integrated, high-performance, modern system with clean operating interface (via iPad control).  Also, we have chosen components that represent a system that is NOT stratospherically priced!

KWI 200 w/DAC and Phono = $6500 MSRP
VPI Classic I w/Dynavector Cart  =~$3500.
ModWright Truth (tube) Modified Oppo BDP-95 = $3,000.
Daedalus Audio Athena Speakers with all poly crossover option = [Need to verify MSRP with Lou]
Wywire Cabling.

I am excited about the show and I want to thank the member who originally posted about the use of smart phones or tablets as remote control for the KWI 200.  It CAN be done and we will show this off at NewPort Beach. 

Once I decide on program and hardware option for our iPad2, I will post this information here and on our website and will include details for how to create a 'virtual ModWright remote', right down to the visuals!

Thank you all.

Sincerely,

Dan Wright
President, ModWright Instruments Inc.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: srb on 13 May 2012, 03:53 am
I have an iPhone/iPod IR remote dongle, not the RedEye, but the L5 Universal Remote Control dongle (this one plugs into the dock connector instead of the headphone jack).

Although the software is very customizable, having a separate plug-in dongle for the controller turned out to be too much of a hassle.  If your phone or ipod is ever carried around with you, the dongle won't be attached and later when you reach for your "remote control", you will either have to attach the dongle, or worse yet, first find it.  And even if it is "permanently" installed on a house-bound iPad, the appendage sticks out and is in the way.  For those reasons, I no longer use it.

A much more satisfying approach is to use an intermediary device that accepts commands transmitted via either built-in Bluetooth or WiFi which then relays IR commands to the components' IR receivers, requiring no dongle to be attached.  The device requires proper physical location, particularly if it needs to control multiple components, but it also means that you don't have to point the remote control at the component either.

Steve
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: wilsynet on 13 May 2012, 06:23 am
Just in case it isn't clear ... The more expensive $199 Redeye (not the mini) has a cradle, but the cradle is there as a charging cradle for convenience; it is not necessary to plug it into the iPhone/iPad to perform remote control functions.

The Redeye accepts commands over Wifi from the Redeye app and emits IR to your devices.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 16 May 2012, 02:13 am
Thanks guys!

Dan
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: givemevinyl on 11 Jun 2012, 05:43 am
Can this integrated be put into Standby mode?  If not, then how long does it take to reach optimal state from a cold start?
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 11 Jun 2012, 05:32 pm
There is not a standby mode, no.  Because it is a Class A/B design however, it does not idle hot, so you could simply mute the volume control and the amp would essentially be in standby, as the idle current is not high at all.

I would say that it warms up in about 30 minutes or so.  I honestly have not listened from cold start and watched the clock to be sure.

It warms up faster than tube gear however.

Thank you,

Dan W.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: Audioexcels on 1 Aug 2012, 11:39 am
Dan,

How much space does the line stage part of the amplifier take or or where is it located?  The reason why I ask this is because I will have this amplifier soon, but I LOVE my Preamp+Dac units (very small=wouldn't require much room inside the case but I can see the case is quite loaded as it is).  I will obviously test the amp as it is, but I would also like to know how difficult it would be to work in my own line stage+dac that takes up approximately 6"'s square of space?  I prefer to have this inside the amplifier with short leads and also to only have one single cable (coax) running to my source.  Would you PM me a price or if it's even possible for you to do such a thing, that is, if I do not like your line stage more.  Granted the amp is one I believe to be an absolute keeper for years, I would be willing to give up the line stage inside this unit, keeping the digital remote attenuating device for volume that would attach to my own line stage+dac.

Probably not making a whole lot of sense, but PM me if you will to let me know if we can make this happen granted again, that it is something I feel will be the best path for me.

My friend has been absolutely LOVING his KWA-150 and LS36.5;)...he says he's never heard the level of resolution combined with presence this combo makes.  He doesn't know what it would cost to beat this, but feels it is in a truly elite category.

Cheers and keep up the good stuff and enjoy the gorgeous weather we are getting at least hear on the Northernish OR coast!!!
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 11 Sep 2012, 12:39 am
What you can do, is actually operate the KWI 200 as a straight amplifier, via the 'Bypass' inputs.  In this mode, you could run your preamp/DAC, straight into the Bypass inputs of the amp and control volume from the preamp.  This will bypass the internal preamp stage in the KWI 200.

We have done it with all of our tube preamps, in conjunction with the KWI 200 as a straight amplifier and it also works FANTASTIC this way.

Thanks!

Dan
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: Afterimage on 21 Sep 2012, 01:38 pm
Speaking of tubes, did I see mention somewhere there could be a 300 watt hybrid integrated in the works sometime in the future?  That would be amazing. 
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 22 Sep 2012, 01:21 am
It is a though in my mind, but nothing more right now....

I originally intended to do a hybrid integrated, but I realized that it would push the price-point too high, so I decided to start first with a pure SS design and LATER do a hybrid amp, possibly of higher power and certainly of higher price.  No release date or price.  Merely a thought at this time.

Thanks,

Dan W.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: maxboy00 on 5 Oct 2012, 12:17 pm
What you can do, is actually operate the KWI 200 as a straight amplifier, via the 'Bypass' inputs.  In this mode, you could run your preamp/DAC, straight into the Bypass inputs of the amp and control volume from the preamp.  This will bypass the internal preamp stage in the KWI 200.

We have done it with all of our tube preamps, in conjunction with the KWI 200 as a straight amplifier and it also works FANTASTIC this way.

Thanks!

Dan


I have the KWI-200 and think it is an outstanding amp, is there any reason why someone would need to add a separate LS preamp? is there any benefit and does this not defeat to purpose of an integrated amp in the first place?  Just asking!   
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 5 Oct 2012, 04:17 pm
Hi, I agree, the purpose of an integrated is to be an integrated.  Many integrated amps also offer preamp inputs and outputs, so that a person may add a second amp or choose to upgrade the preamp section of their integrated with a separate preamp.

The KWI 200 is a brilliant Integrated Amp!  It is a pure SS design.  I had initially looked at a hybrid design and it would have driven the price up too high.  As a result, I made it pure SS and released it at its price, that I feel is an exceptional value!

My point about adding the LS 100 to the mix is simply that it sounds EVEN better when tubes are in the mix.  It is at that point, an entirely different priced system and no longer acting as an integrated. 

I always like our products to offer logical upgrade paths.  Using a tube preamp like the LS 100 IS a way to upgrade the sound from the KWI 200 as an integrated.  This does not mean that it isn't a great integrated.

I hope this makes sense.

Please see more recent post of new ModWright KWI 200 review!: http://www.witchdoctor.co.nz/index.php/2012/10/modwright-instruments-kwi-200-integrated-amplifier-review/ (http://www.witchdoctor.co.nz/index.php/2012/10/modwright-instruments-kwi-200-integrated-amplifier-review/)

Please note that the pricing indicated in the review is in $NZ.  If you are interested in pricing in $U.S., please email us or your local dealer.

Sincerely,

Dan W.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: srb on 5 Oct 2012, 05:00 pm
For some, even if the sound of the integrated amplifier is not wanting for tubes, the Bypass inputs also facilitate the integration of a home theater surround processor or receiver into the 2 channel system, allowing the front L and R preamp outputs of the processor to directly go into the power amp section without going through a second preamp section.
 
Steve
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: fado on 5 Oct 2012, 05:48 pm
It seems like the review shows incorrect (very high) pricing for the KWI 200.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: fado on 5 Oct 2012, 05:59 pm
Just found earlier post clarifying that prices in the review are in $NZ.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: maxboy00 on 6 Oct 2012, 06:25 pm
My point about adding the LS 100 to the mix is simply that it sounds EVEN better when tubes are in the mix.  It is at that point, an entirely different priced system and no longer acting as an integrated. 


If going with this option, is the difference in sound quality a marked difference? Over the existing PA of the KWI-200? I have no experience with tube gear at all and I have some interest in pursuing this path.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 9 Oct 2012, 10:32 pm
Yes, using a tube preamp to bypass the Integrated amps own preamp section WILL sound better!  It is also more money and another component.  I am saying this to explain that when used as a 'separate' with a separate tube preamp, YES, the KWI 200 sounds EVEN better as an amp.

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: Agrippa on 7 Apr 2013, 08:54 am
I can't seem to find any specs for the optional phono stage anywhere, but maybe you could post the details here?

I'm currently considering downscaling and looking for a really good integrated amplifier.  Trouble is, I'd want one that also has a really good phono stage and that seems to limit my choices to a small handful at best.  Sadly not a single one of the KWI 200 reviews I've found have even tested the phono stage, so whether or not it can be included in that small handful is an open question.  The phono specs won't really give me the answer, of course, but I'd appreciate the indication they'll give me either way.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 17 Apr 2013, 05:29 pm
Hi, the phono stage is good.  It is a $350 option and is full solid-state.  It offers a net gain of 56dB for phono and preamp stage in integrated.  As such, without a step-up transformer, is best suited for high-output MC and MM carts.

I hope that this helps!

Thanks,

Dan W.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: AIB on 7 Sep 2013, 07:55 pm
Is there a best way too burn in the KWI 200? I also use it with TV and wonder if it should be burned in while playing music and therefor more use of power..
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: mg8 on 15 Sep 2013, 05:07 pm
I can't seem to find any specs for the optional phono stage anywhere, but maybe you could post the details here?

I'm currently considering downscaling and looking for a really good integrated amplifier.  Trouble is, I'd want one that also has a really good phono stage and that seems to limit my choices to a small handful at best.  Sadly not a single one of the KWI 200 reviews I've found have even tested the phono stage, so whether or not it can be included in that small handful is an open question.  The phono specs won't really give me the answer, of course, but I'd appreciate the indication they'll give me either way.

I have also been looking for KWI-200 phono reviews.  The onboard phono was  great convenience for my phono interests (neophyte).  Although I have large digital library (CD and hi-res downloads), I wanted to have a phono input to "experiment" with vinyl.  The MWI-200 is absolutely perfect for my use but some comparative review or guidance on turntables and cartridges from an experienced vinyl guru would be helpful.  I was thinking about a VPI Classic 3 (used) or a Clearaudio Concept but I get the impression that TT and cartridge choices have high variability with results.  Basically, what are some good "matches" for this phono stage that will an "on-ramp" to experience what vinyl has to offer?  I don't want to spend a lot on a TT/cart but I don't want to go cheap and be disappointed. I feel the "simplicity" of the Clearaudio Concept might be right but are there better "matches" from VPI, Project, Rega, etc.

Any user feedback would be great.
 
 
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: Sonny on 20 Oct 2013, 01:12 am
I currently have a KWI 200 right now and I think it's wonderful!  It replaced the Pass Labs X1 and X250 Combo and while it give up a little warmth and body that the Pass has, it's much more dynamic and has loads of slam!  Also, it's just a nicely designed piece of gear and as it burns in I will let you know.  I think it's better suited in my system than the Pass gear was. 

More to come...

BTW, I am using it as a full integrated with my Marantz SA11S3 as a source for SACD/CD and DAC.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: pingpong on 15 Dec 2013, 02:37 pm
Hi All,

fellow KWI 200 user reporting here. Looking for a pair of speaker to match the KWI 200. shortlisted Aerial Acoustic 7T. anyone heard the KWI 200 together with the 7T? Would they be a good match?

Thank you.

Cheers.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: maxboy00 on 16 Dec 2013, 12:18 am
 "Looking for a pair of speaker to match the KWI 200".

You have no worries, the KWI-200 has plenty of  power, finesse and headroom to drive virtually any speaker, so sit back and enjoy this amp it is a gem.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: Artp on 16 Dec 2013, 03:51 pm
I'm using the KWI 200 with Vandersteen 3A Sigs and a MW tubed Oppo...amazing sound! BTW this amp really takes a big step up with a Shunyata Python power cord and some Stillpoints Ultras.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: pingpong on 18 Dec 2013, 03:13 pm
"Looking for a pair of speaker to match the KWI 200".

You have no worries, the KWI-200 has plenty of  power, finesse and headroom to drive virtually any speaker, so sit back and enjoy this amp it is a gem.

Hi Maxboy00,

thank you for the reply. I have no doubt that the KWI 200 will have no problem driving the 7T, my only concern is the synergy between them.

Cheers
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: maxboy00 on 19 Dec 2013, 11:51 pm
Pingpong,

I have no knowledge of the Aerial 7T's, beyond from what I have read about them. . . very nice speakers indeed. The KWI-200 does have some warmth to it so if that something you like in an amp than I suspect that you will have good results since lack of power is not an issue.

My speakers are from Selah Audio and I have great results with the Modwright IA.

Hope that helps!


Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: pingpong on 23 Dec 2013, 04:35 pm
Hi maxboy,

Thank you for your input.

Merry Christmas!

Cheers


Pingpong,

I have no knowledge of the Aerial 7T's, beyond from what I have read about them. . . very nice speakers indeed. The KWI-200 does have some warmth to it so if that something you like in an amp than I suspect that you will have good results since lack of power is not an issue.

My speakers are from Selah Audio and I have great results with the Modwright IA.

Hope that helps!
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: maxboy00 on 28 Feb 2014, 02:26 am
What you can do, is actually operate the KWI 200 as a straight amplifier, via the 'Bypass' inputs.  In this mode, you could run your preamp/DAC, straight into the Bypass inputs of the amp and control volume from the preamp.  This will bypass the internal preamp stage in the KWI 200.

We have done it with all of our tube preamps, in conjunction with the KWI 200 as a straight amplifier and it also works FANTASTIC this way.

Thanks!

Dan

After much delay and thought I purchased a LS-100 and bypassed the PA in the KWI-200, this being my first experience with anything tubed, and so far  the change is quite noticeable and there has been a  marked improvements in overall sound.  I was skeptical that adding a tube PA would make much of a difference , since the I find the KWI-200 to be an excellent IA to begin with, but clearly I was wrong. So in the  end I have the needed power of the KWI-200 and benefit of a first class PA.   
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 9 Mar 2014, 01:26 am
I am glad that you are enjoying our products!

The KWI 200 is a great power amp and integrated.  It is true that there is something special about tubes in the preamp and solid state amplification.

Thank you for sharing your feedback!

Dan Wright
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: MrBrix on 9 Mar 2014, 01:59 am
Just to add my .02 cents here Modwright tubed linestage paired with a modwright power amp delivers nothing but the musical truth! Yup I know it first hand. As a matter of fact as I write this I am listening to Steel Pulse jamming through the LS 36.5 DM paired with a pair of KWA 150 signature series driving my Vandersteen 5As. And that is the whole musical truth. Have not looked back since I discovered the first modwright gear.

Ije Osuagwu
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: gadawg on 17 Mar 2014, 08:28 pm
I'm new to the forum and my KWI-200 but all I can say about the amp is WOW and its not even properly broken in yet! Running it with Golden Ear Triton 2's also new and they match up really well. Thanks for such a great product! Can't imagine them being much better but I'm guessing after break in it will get even better!  :D
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: kneat on 26 Mar 2014, 03:46 am
I recently purchased a pair of Salk Soundscape 8s (3-way; 87 db sensitivity; 4 ohm) and am considering a KWI200 as an integrated with some warmth. I have 2 questions:

1. What are the benefits of pairing a preamp with the KWI200 as some have mentioned here rather than pairing with a regular power amp such as KWA100/150?

2. If my only sources are CDP and computer, could I connect a tubed external DAC directly to a KWA150SE and skip the preamp?

Terry
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: modwright on 31 Mar 2014, 07:23 pm
Hi, to answer your question, you can pair the KWI 200, 100SE or 150SE with a preamp. You can also run the KWI 200 as a straight integrated.  If your source has a volume control, you can also run it straight into any of our amps, including the 150SE.

The reason that some people find benefit in pairing the KWI 200 with a tube preamp is that it sounds better.  The preamp section in the KWI 200 is SS.  I did this to meet the price-point.

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: JMosch on 1 Apr 2014, 07:35 pm
I recently purchased a pair of Salk Soundscape 8s (3-way; 87 db sensitivity; 4 ohm) and am considering a KWI200 as an integrated with some warmth. I have 2 questions:

1. What are the benefits of pairing a preamp with the KWI200 as some have mentioned here rather than pairing with a regular power amp such as KWA100/150?

2. If my only sources are CDP and computer, could I connect a tubed external DAC directly to a KWA150SE and skip the preamp?

Terry

I think the answer you are looking for (question 1) is none. If you are starting with no equipment and want a tubed pre, then better to pair it with a 100 or 150. No point in buying an integrated and wasting the pre-amp section.

If I started with the integrated and then decided the tubed pre sounds better, I would sell the pre and get a power amp.
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: The Rang on 2 Jun 2015, 03:29 am
Bought the IA about 10 months ago to power my old KEFs.
Now their woofers need work so I'm debating between fixing and replacing.
One contender are the Focal Aria 900 series.
Never been a Focal or metal tweeter fan in the past, but what I heard in the showroom impressed me especially when driven by a big NAD IA (not so good with BAT gear, sloppy bass). And there are big discounts because they're changing the walnut finish.

Plan to haul the KWI200 to the store for a listen.

Does anyone here have any experience using the MW with Focal speakers?
Title: Re: ModWright Integrated
Post by: talk2me on 2 Jul 2015, 04:32 pm
I am glad that you are enjoying our products!

The KWI 200 is a great power amp and integrated.  It is true that there is something HEAVENLY about tubes in the preamp and solid state amplification.

Thank you for sharing your feedback!

Dan Wright

fixed. :D