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Community => Non-audio hobbies and interests => The IT Crowd => Topic started by: FullRangeMan on 7 Aug 2017, 01:04 am
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When this version arrived the problems started, FF gets w/a black screen and locks all the tabs when watching videos on YT, it no respond to any button all tabs stay black.
By activating McAfee Web Advisor the situation gets worse, the FF gets lost/full inoperative in loop, even without running videos, only 2 tabs open.
Hope they fix this fast, anyone is in similar situation or is just my W10 PC?
It can be the W10 Creators?
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I'm running the same version of FF (54.0.1 32 bit version) on an ASUS desktop PC on Windows 10 with all current updates without any issues.
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How much favorites do you have on FF?
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Firefox 54.0.1 32-bit is fine with my standard Windows 10 64-bit edition.
I would advise in the future not to update Windows 10 to a new major version if it's not mandatory, at least not right away until the typical bug fixes are issued.
In the meantime, you might get relief from updating your video driver (if an update is available). Even if Windows reports the video driver is up to date, you may want to manually search for an updated one, preferably from the driver downloads page of your computer manufacturer's website.
Steve
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I tried all the tricks and fixes and finally had to uninstall Firefox 54.0.1 32 bit and install Firefox 55.0 64 bit (beta) to get it to work with Creators.
Windows 10, version 1703 has finally settled down with less weirdness happening which is a good thing since everyone will get it very soon.
Last week 1703 was declared Current Branch for Business (CBB) and thus would be widely released to Windows 10 Pro users who chose to defer the feature release, Windows 10 Home users can not defer.
Wayne
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It's also possible that an extension could be the cause of your woes. Try running it in safe mode and see if the problem goes away.
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How much favorites do you have on FF?
I can't find an easy way to count my favorites, but I'd guess I have over 1,000.
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I can't find an easy way to count my favorites, but I'd guess I have over 1,000.
Bookmarks > Show All Bookmarks
Type / in the Search field
Select any bookmark in the results box
Select All (Ctrl + A)
Number of bookmark items will be displayed below
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Bookmarks > Show All Bookmarks
Type / in the Search field
Select any bookmark in the results box
Select All (Ctrl + A)
Number of bookmark items will be displayed below
Thanks for the tip, so I have 168, its not much.
My FF 54 also is slow, first time it was like this.
This slowness started much longer, if I remember correctly it was in version 53 when using McAfee Web Advisor only, that I disabled.
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Bookmarks > Show All Bookmarks
Type / in the Search field
Select any bookmark in the results box
Select All (Ctrl + A)
Number of bookmark items will be displayed below
Thanks for sharing that tip; my estimate of 1,000 was pretty close as it shows I actually have 1,070.
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1,724 Bookmarks
BTW, Firefox 64-bit isn't an option for me anyway, as that version works with very few add-on Extensions, and I have come to rely on a number of them.
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What's the benefit of running the 64 bit version of Firefox if you don't have 4GB+ of pages open at once?
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What's the benefit of running the 64 bit version of Firefox if you don't have 4GB+ of pages open at once?
Very little, although I suppose if you have a number of other applications already open that are using most of the first 4GB of memory, then opening 64-bit Firefox might be able to initially access memory space above 4GB without going to pagefile "memory".
Funny thing is although you might expect the 64-bit version to be faster for many tasks, in all the tests I have seen 32-bit Firefox outperformed 64-bit Firefox in nearly every test, except for opening Firefox after a reboot - the 64-bit version opened in ~ .5 seconds quicker!
Before a system rebuild 9 months ago, I had both versions installed, but when I discovered that most of my add-on Extensions wouldn't work, I never looked back at 64-bit.
I regularly use:
GENERAL TOOLS:
FireFTP
DownThemAll!
PlainOldFavorites
TBgoto
Zoom Page
Copy Plain Text 2
Open In Chrome
Open in IE
OperaView
Safari View Win
WEB PAGE TOOLS:
ColorZilla
FontInformation
Tilt
Steve
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What's the benefit of running the 64 bit version of Firefox if you don't have 4GB+ of pages open at once?
The only benefit for me is that it works with Windows version 1703 - Creators update, 64 bit Firefox it is completely stable and works with the few plugins I use.
While I was trouble shooting Firefox I tried using the Windows Edge browser, what a MF disaster that thing is.
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FF-64 run the plugin Classic Theme Restorer?
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I regularly use:
GENERAL TOOLS:
FireFTP
DownThemAll!
PlainOldFavorites
TBgoto
Zoom Page
Copy Plain Text 2
Open In Chrome
Open in IE
OperaView
Safari View Win
WEB PAGE TOOLS:
ColorZilla
FontInformation
Tilt
Steve
Steve - Thanks for sharing these add-ons, I just installed TBgoto and Copy Plain Text 2 which I wasn't previously aware of. Some others I use are Adblock Plus, Dashlane, Print Edit, and Speed Tweaks (SpeedyFox).
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Steve - Thanks for sharing these add-ons, I just installed TBgoto and Copy Plain Text 2 which I wasn't previously aware of.
Avast Anti-Virus regularly flags TBgoto as a suspicious or non-reputable add-on, but I've never had a problem. Maybe there's some background data collection I'm unaware of, but McAfee AV and Malwarebytes have no problem with it nor did Google locate any pages discussing problems associated with it, so I'm ignoring Avast's warning as a heuristic false positive. :dunno:
Steve
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Avast Anti-Virus regularly flags TBgoto as a suspicious or non-reputable add-on, but I've never had a problem. Maybe there's some background data collection I'm unaware of, but McAfee AV and Malwarebytes have no problem with it nor did Google locate any pages discussing problems associated with it, so I'm ignoring Avast's warning as a heuristic false positive. :dunno:
Steve
Just as another data point, I run Bitdefender 2018 along with Malwarebytes Premium and neither warned of any issue with TBgoto.
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FF 55.0 is out and it shows correcting these bugs. So far its stable on my PC.
Fix a display issue of tab title (bug 1357656)
Fix a display issue of opening new tab (bug 1371995)
Fix a display issue when opening multiple tabs (bug 1371962)
Fix a tab display issue when downloading files (bug 1373109)
Fix a PDF printing issue (bug 1366744)
Fix a Netflix issue on Linux (bug 1375708)
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I'm using Opera Browser for the first time and absolutely love it.
Opera version: 46.0.2597.26376
System: Windows 7 64-bit
I tried Mozilla's new browsers "Waterfox" , no comparison to Opera IMO.
I just deleted all my browsers yesterday Except Opera.
They were, FireFox, WaterFox,Chrome,and a browser by Avira.
Love Opera so far.
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I'm using Opera Browser for the first time and absolutely love it.
Opera version: 46.0.2597.26376
System: Windows 7 64-bit
I tried Mozilla's new browsers "Waterfox" , no comparison to Opera IMO.
I just deleted all my browsers yesterday Except Opera.
They were, FireFox, WaterFox,Chrome,and a browser by Avira.
Love Opera so far.
Curious what you like so much better about Opera compared to Firefox or Chrome. I was going to try it but the Dashlane password manager doesn't seem to have an add-on for Opera. TIA!
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My FF 54 is downloading an update 24.4mb, may be these fixtures.
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My FF 54 is downloading an update 24.4mb, may be these fixtures.
Yes, that's the update to v55.0
It will be interesting to see if that solves your problem.
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Yes, that's the update to v55.0
It will be interesting to see if that solves your problem.
Wait, I will reboot the FF.
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Interesting to see in the FF v55.0 notes it says that the 64 bit version is recommended in systems with Windows 64 bit OS and sufficient memory. Also that current 32 bit users with suitable systems will automatically be upgraded to the 64 bit version as part of their normal updates as of the next release.
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With the update to v55.0 32-bit, 19 of 23 active add-ons now have a LEGACY tag next to them.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=166600)
I have my Tools > Options > Advanced > Update set for "Check for updates, but let you choose whether to install them".
Will have to see how this plays out - whether my Legacy add-ons will be disabled and/or whether Mozilla will continue to offer 32-bit updates for manual installation.
Steve
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With the update to v55.0 32-bit, 19 of 23 active add-ons now have a LEGACY tag next to them.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=166600)
I have my Tools > Options > Advanced > Update set for "Check for updates, but let you choose whether to install them".
Will have to see how this plays out - whether my Legacy add-ons will be disabled and/or whether Mozilla will continue to offer 32-bit updates for manual installation.
Steve
Steve - I just completed updating FF v55.0 to the 64 bit version and the majority of my add-ons are also marked as LEGACY so it's not really clear what that indicates. I am thrilled to report that the 64 bit version is clearly running much faster with many page loads now being almost instantaneous! If you choose to make the upgrade to the 64 bit version and you use Outlook it is strongly recommended to temporarily change your default web browser to IE before the new install. Then once it's completed you can uninstall the 32 bit version and then reset your default web browser to FF. I followed those instructions and the new version is working very well and all of my settings and add-ons remained installed. :thumb:
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*** Warning about upgrading from FF 32 to 64 bit version ***
I performed the upgrade as a described in my previous post, then after a system reboot Outlook was blocked from opening any embedded hyperlinks in email (both links to web pages and email). I had to spend about an hour messing around with resetting IE as my default browser and resetting its defaults, then changing other program defaults involving browser and Outlook email client, restoring FF as my default browser, and finally making a registry value change before I was finally able to restore email embedded hyperlinks functionality in Outlook. After my experience I'd respectfully suggest that you may be well advised to wait until the next FF release where they are going to make the 64 bit upgrade automatic which will hopefully avoid these issues! :duh:
However I have to say that I continue to be extremely impressed with the speed improvement with the 64 bit version of FF. I previously used Google Chrome for a couple of years and found its speed exceptional, but got tired of having to deal with so many websites being incorrectly rendered or simply non-functional in Chrome. So I switched to FF and found it noticeably slower but much better consistency with more universal compatibility. Now with the upgrade to the latest version of FF and particularly the 64 bit version I find it to perform at least as quickly as Chrome and I think it may even be faster!
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These are two videos that had prob in my FF54.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7VdttECw_o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYV41L7Uslk
Now w/the FF55 it dont present any prob.
Also appear 2 new W10 updates
• 2017-08 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1703 for x64-based Systems (KB4034674).
•2017-08 Security Update for Adobe Flash Player for Windows 10 Version 1703 for x64-based Systems (KB4034662).
What make sense as the Flash Player run the videos.
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With the update to v55.0 32-bit, 19 of 23 active add-ons now have a LEGACY tag next to them.
Sorry that this might be slightly off-topic, but Firefox 57, which is supposed to come out in November of this year, will no longer run add-ons not written for the WebExtensions API. See this article (https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2017/02/16/the-road-to-firefox-57-compatibility-milestones/) for more details. The responses to the article are interesting.
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Here's something I found when upgrading Firefox 54.0.1 to the 64-bit version.
I use a programmer's text editor called Notepad++. When editing HTML files, there are menu options to launch the file in various browsers to view it. After upgrading to the 64-bit version of Firefox, the option to launch the current file in Firefox stopped working. A post on their support site led me to the solution. For the 32-bit version that hasn't been upgraded to 64-bit, there is a key in the registry that looks like this:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\firefox.exe
It has a (Default) subkey with the following value:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
And a Path subkey with this value:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox
When installing the 64-bit version, then uninstalling the 32-bit version, the "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\firefox.exe" registry key gets blown away! It needs to be added back, with these subkeys:
(Default)
C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
Path
C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox
Once I did that, then rebooted, the command to launch Firefox from Notepad++ worked again. There's probably related problems with other programs as well.
Note: "HKLM" is shorthand for "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE"
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Unfortunately the same prob happen again, the tab of the video becomes black as before, but the other tabs are white, and no information is showed-frozen.
Its not work properly also w/ Google translator and is very slow on most sites.
The version is 55.0.1 (32-bit)
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Unfortunately the same prob happen again, the tab of the video becomes black as before, but the other tabs are white, and no information is showed-frozen.
So updating the video driver did not help at all?
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=151968.msg1625086#msg1625086
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So updating the video driver did not help at all?
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=151968.msg1625086#msg1625086
The Nvidia Ge Force update app informed the driver is uptodate.
So I have not updated.
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The Nvidia Ge Force update app informed the driver is uptodate.
So I have not updated.
It might be worth a try to uninstall the driver (removing files) then reinstall it.
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Since afew days my FF 55.0.2 (32-bit) started not to work properly with the FlagFox 5.1.26 plugin-legacy ((
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I see you are still beating that 32 bit Firefox :deadhorse:
My problems ended when I uninstalled the 32 bit and installed the 64 bit. Firefox 56.0b5 (64 bit) is performing flawlessly.
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Similarly for me, downloaded and installed Firefox 55 64 bit version, currently on v55.0.2 and everything is working perfectly including all of my legacy add-ons but I don't use FlagFox.
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Its downloading 5,7MB of updating...
Its updated to 55.0.3 (32-bit) w/this version Flagfox is working OK.
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Seems FF are very fast today.
I do nothing so far, just wait they fix that *
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Situation worse again w/many FF lockings, that force me to investigate, after uninstall Adbock Plus 2.9.1(legacy), McAfee WebAdvisor 5.0.559.0 and Google Search Bar the situation better alot and was possible to see the prob is at Firefox 55.0.3 32 bits.
Activing Google Search Bar block the FF in minutes even without seeing videos, the same for Google translator, seems FF dont support anymore these apps :duh:
Mozila is forcing me cameback to IE-11.
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Situation worse again w/many FF lockings, that force me to investigate, after uninstall Adbock Plus 2.9.1(legacy), McAfee WebAdvisor 5.0.559.0 and Google Search Bar the situation better alot and was possible to see the prob is at Firefox 55.0.3 32 bits.
Activing Google Search Bar block the FF in minutes even without seeing videos, the same for Google translator, seems FF dont support anymore these apps :duh:
Mozila is forcing me cameback to IE-11.
Firefox is in the process of changing their support for add-ons. The old-style "XPI" add-ons are now marked as "legacy" in yellow in the add-ons dialog, but most of them still work in 55.0.3. When version 57 is released (supposedly in November of this year), the legacy add-ons will cease to function. All add-ons for Firefox 57 and later must be written by the programmer using the so-called "WebExtensions" application programming interface (API). Many extension developers got mad at Mozilla for this decision and refused to rewrite their add-ons using the new API, so many of these add-ons will go away permanently.
Firefox makes available what's called "Firefox ESR" (Extended Support Release), which is a slightly older version that will retain support for legacy add-ons for about one more year, while also getting security updates. It's supposed to be for institutional use where better stability is needed, but I finally got sick of all the shenanigans with new Firefox versions and downloaded it for my use. It works very well, and I can't tell any difference in appearance or operation, (other than support for the older add-ons) between it and the latest version. It gets rid of the yellow "legacy" notation in the add-ons dialog for the older XPI add-ons. You can read more about it here (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/) and download it here (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/).
For ad blockers, I highly recommend uBlock Origin. It's very fast. AdBlock is in the business of being paid by companies for preventing their sites from being blocked, while the uBlock Origin developer is just a regular guy.
There's tons of good discussion about these issues with Firefox in the Firefox group on reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/).
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Thanks Andy, it seems Microsoft dream came true.
If FF cant run Classic theme restorer I may even uninstall Firefox and use IE-11 as it faster than FF.
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Thanks Andy, it seems Microsoft dream came true.
If FF cant run Classic theme restorer I may even uninstall Firefox and use IE-11 as it faster than FF.
I still use Firefox, but only for developing web pages now, as it has nice development tools for inspecting and debugging. I ended up switching to Opera of all things, which I never thought I'd do. It has the same browsing engine as Chrome, so it's very fast, but has far better bookmark management than Chrome. It works with uBlock Origin, and a favorite of mine, FVD Video Downloader. FVD works on Chrome too, but not for downloading youtube videos, which defeats the purpose. However FVD works just fine for downloading youtube videos in Opera.
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This FF 55.0.3 can not even hear 1(one) radio station without locking :duh:
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This FF 55.0.3 can not even hear 1(one) radio station without locking :duh:
Lockups and other similar problems can often be due to a buggy add-on. If you can find a situation that causes the problem in a repeatable way, try disabling all add-ons individually using the Tools, Add-ons menu and subsequent dialog. If disabling all add-ons fixes the problem, then one of the add-ons is likely to be buggy. Re-enable each add-on one at a time, repeating the test until the problem comes back. If you can repeatably make the problem come and go by enabling and disabling a particular add-on, that's the bad one.
If you really want to continue using your legacy add-ons as long as possible, you'll need to install Firefox ESR (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/). It is the most stable version going and will be kept up to date with security fixes.
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Thanks Andy, I appreciated you advice;
I already uninstalled McAfee Web Advisor much time ago at the 53 version, recently I uninstalled Google Search Bar and Ad-block Plus, these last 2 made a very beneficial effect, sometimes I managed to recover the FF without cancel it, it was clear to me that this FF does not support these add-ons, which is a shame.
So now I have only Classic theme Restorer 1.7.0 and Flagfox 51.2.6 add-ons.
This shit have just lockout now w/the Google Translator too, after I quit the Translator tab FF return to operate very slow, incredible the incompetence from these Mozila programmers or software analyst.
Other thing bother me is the mouse and keyboard dont work at all or work very slowly, the FF process the keyboard typing very slowly, I never see a thing like this.
Its clear to me that FF 55.0.3 dont operate at multi-task, but at one task at a time in a line or mono-task.
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Suggest have someone come over and look at your whole system (not just FF) and do some analysis and troubleshooting. What you are doing doesn't seem to be working for you and it is too complex a thing to fix in a discussion forum without digging into your system.
Aside from that...
-use 64-bit applications if possible
-use a good system recovery app like Macrium Reflect so you can put things back exactly if you mess them up. Make images b4 all software installs
-keep your system simple
-use a sandbox (ie. Sandboxie) to keep things safe if you don't update as often
-stop updating stuff until you find out if their are problems with the updates. Don't be an "early adopter".
-if you still have problems, post in a Mozilla forum, not an audio forum
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Probs begin after it auto updated to V54, after W10Creators situation get worse, w/IE-11 there is no probs :scratch:
I intend no work for Mozila for free, I suspect my FF55 are not send report for them when it lock.
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I think I has resolved the prob, two days without incidents.
I will see many videos and radio etc to force happen.
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Well w/9 YT tabs open it came to lost tabs screen connection, all tab are unable to show screen.
I noted 2 new plug-in today:
Widevine content decryption module provided by Google 1.4.8.903
OpenH264 1.6 video codec provided by Cisco Systems, Inc. This plugin is installed automatically by Mozilla in compliance with the WebRTC specification and to enable WebRTC calls with devices that require the H.264 video codec. Visit http://www.openh264.org/ to see the source code for the codec and learn more about the implementation.