BDA-2 DAC and BDA-3 DAC

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Re: BDA-2 DAC and BDA-3 DAC
« Reply #960 on: 17 Aug 2015, 08:29 pm »
Any news on the BDA-3?

Still working on it but getting closer - hope to have production in late September.

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Marius

Re: BDA-2 DAC and BDA-3 DAC
« Reply #961 on: 17 Aug 2015, 08:46 pm »
HI James,

Could you please elaborate on the earlier question on amount of RCA/BNC/SPDIF inputs on the BDA3? They are sorely missed on my part (compared to the BDA1) , can they somehow be added to the BDA as an option, or preferably per design of course...

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Marius

 
Still working on it but getting closer - hope to have production in late September.

james

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Re: BDA-2 DAC and BDA-3 DAC
« Reply #962 on: 17 Aug 2015, 10:14 pm »
HI James,

Could you please elaborate on the earlier question on amount of RCA/BNC/SPDIF inputs on the BDA3? They are sorely missed on my part (compared to the BDA1) , can they somehow be added to the BDA as an option, or preferably per design of course...

Thanks,
Marius

Do you mean that an SPDIF input can be modified to be either an COAX or a BNC?

james

Marius

Re: BDA-2 DAC and BDA-3 DAC
« Reply #963 on: 18 Aug 2015, 04:42 am »
Do you mean that an SPDIF input can be modified to be either an COAX or a BNC?

james

Hi James,

No, I  meant to ask you if it is possible to add the inputs back again you took out compared to the BDA1. You've made the bda3 more Video flexible but unfortunately less audio only connective .
Hope it's possible to restore that unique design that set the Bda1 apart from the competition.

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Marius

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Re: BDA-2 DAC and BDA-3 DAC
« Reply #964 on: 18 Aug 2015, 10:40 am »
Hi James,

No, I  meant to ask you if it is possible to add the inputs back again you took out compared to the BDA1. You've made the bda3 more Video flexible but unfortunately less audio only connective .
Hope it's possible to restore that unique design that set the Bda1 apart from the competition.

Cheers
Marius

No I am sorry the number of inputs is set as per the current back panel. The BDA-2 will stay in the line for those that need more COAX and BNC type inputs.  More and more people are using HDMI connections and we have added a second USB input to the BDA3 as USB is becoming more popular as well.

james

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Re: BDA-2 DAC and BDA-3 DAC
« Reply #965 on: 18 Aug 2015, 11:36 am »
Ok James,

Too bad, but thanks anyways.

Forgive me for asking but do the BDA2 and 3 have the same processor then? Or is the 3 really also an upgrade processor-wise, and does it sport a later/better processor.

Also, I remember you stating that if Bryston were to do DSD, it would have to be done with its own separated circuitry, since DSD and PCM were to totally different beasts. Do  PCM and DSD in the BDA3 now have their own processors and accompanying circuitry? I cant seem to find anything on that.

Thanks,
Marius

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No I am sorry the number of inputs is set as per the current back panel. The BDA-2 will stay in the line for those that need more COAX and BNC type inputs.  More and more people are using HDMI connections and we have added a second USB input to the BDA3 as USB is becoming more popular as well.

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Re: BDA-2 DAC and BDA-3 DAC
« Reply #966 on: 18 Aug 2015, 11:42 am »
Ok James,

Too bad, but thanks anyways.

Forgive me for asking but do the BDA2 and 3 have the same processor then? Or is the 3 really also an upgrade processor-wise, and does it sport a later/better processor.

Also, I remember you stating that if Bryston were to do DSD, it would have to be done with its own separated circuitry, since DSD and PCM were to totally different beasts. Do  PCM and DSD in the BDA3 now have their own processors and accompanying circuitry? I cant seem to find anything on that.

Thanks,
Marius

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No the BDA3 uses a new AKM DAC capable of DSD whereas the BDA2 is a PCM only DAC - although it appears the BDA-2 will play DSD 64 through USB.

Yes the circuitry is different for DSD and PCM in the BDA3 so there is a sensing circuit in the BDA3 that determines the incoming signal and sends it to the appropriate circuitry.

james


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Re: BDA-2 DAC and BDA-3 DAC
« Reply #967 on: 18 Aug 2015, 11:57 am »
No the BDA3 uses a new AKM DAC capable of DSD whereas the BDA2 is a PCM only DAC - although it appears the BDA-2 will play DSD 64 through USB.

Yes the circuitry is different for DSD and PCM in the BDA3 so there is a sensing circuit in the BDA3 that determines the incoming signal and sends it to the appropriate circuitry.

james

thank you James, very tempting and interesting. Hope to see some of the measured tests soon  :thumb:

Marius

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Re: BDA-2 DAC and BDA-3 DAC
« Reply #968 on: 18 Aug 2015, 01:39 pm »
No I am sorry the number of inputs is set as per the current back panel. The BDA-2 will stay in the line for those that need more COAX and BNC type inputs.

Although the number and type of inputs are finalized, if the silkscreening and physical manual are not, I think I would refer to the group of inputs as "S/PDIF Digital Audio Inputs" with "RCA", "BNC" and "OPT" (TOSLINK)  labels, as RCA and BNC terminated connections both utilize COAX cable construction, and all three are S/PDIF format.

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Re: BDA-2 DAC and BDA-3 DAC
« Reply #969 on: 25 Aug 2015, 08:23 am »
What kind of HDMI version will be used on the BDA-3?
What about a remote controll?
I own the 4BSST2, BP26, MPS-2 and will get the BDA-3 when it is ready.
Is it possible to turn on/off all of them in one action with some sort of trigger?


Marius

Re: BDA-2 DAC and BDA-3 DAC
« Reply #971 on: 28 Aug 2015, 06:23 pm »
http://benchmarkmedia.com/blogs/news/41262017-audio-myth-dsd-provides-a-direct-stream-from-a-d-to-d-a?utm_source=Application+Notes&utm_campaign=8c260d3dfb-AppNotes_22Apr_high-resolution_server&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e28f43b8aa-8c260d3dfb-125345741&mc_cid=8c260d3dfb&mc_eid

Hi James
Thank you for this, most informative.
I take it you reposting this means this is also the Bryston philosophy. Could you elaborate on that, and on the path Bryston implements PCM and DSD in the BDA's?

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Marius

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Re: BDA-2 DAC and BDA-3 DAC
« Reply #972 on: 28 Aug 2015, 06:29 pm »
Hi James
Thank you for this, most informative.
I take it you reposting this means this is also the Bryston philosophy. Could you elaborate on that, and on the path Bryston implements PCM and DSD in the BDA's?

Thanks,
Marius

Its a separate circuit path for DSD and PCM but I agree with the artricle that DSD is just another option for digital playback.

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Marius

Re: BDA-2 DAC and BDA-3 DAC
« Reply #973 on: 28 Aug 2015, 06:35 pm »
You've explained about that before, thanks. I hoped  you might be able to inform us a bit more on how these separate paths are implemented.

btw, do you have anything in mind for us upgraders, like Benchmark does? A very nice trade-in program they offer: http://benchmarkmedia.com/pages/dac1-trade-in-program

Cheers,
Marius

Its a separate circuit path for DSD and PCM but I agree with the artricle that DSD is just another option for digital playback.

james

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Re: BDA-2 DAC and BDA-3 DAC
« Reply #974 on: 28 Aug 2015, 06:38 pm »
You've explained about that before, thanks. I hoped  you might be able to inform us a bit more on how these separate paths are implemented.

btw, do you have anything in mind for us upgraders, like Benchmark does? A very nice trade-in program they offer: http://benchmarkmedia.com/pages/dac1-trade-in-program

Cheers,
Marius

Hi Marius,

No I am sorry there is nothing I can do at the trade-up level (not enough margin for that) - it would be up to the dealer to decide the trade in value.

james

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Re: BDA-2 DAC and BDA-3 DAC
« Reply #975 on: 28 Aug 2015, 06:41 pm »
ok, thanks James.

Hi Marius,

No I am sorry there is nothing I can do at the trade-up level (not enough margin for that) - it would be up to the dealer to decide the trade in value.

james

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Re: BDA-2 DAC and BDA-3 DAC
« Reply #976 on: 11 Sep 2015, 04:28 pm »
Hi James

I currently have the BDA 1 and use the 4bsst2 and BP17 ( and middle T speakers).  Is the BDA 2 going to be an improvement sound wise, or is it mainly a feature upgrade ?  I am considering an upgrade, but if it is only features that were upgraded I am probably fine as my BDA 1 is good that way. I use it to mainly run digital files through a streamer ( Moon Mind) from a NAS drive.  The streamer and DAC are connected via AES/EBU cable

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Re: BDA-2 DAC and BDA-3 DAC
« Reply #977 on: 11 Sep 2015, 04:59 pm »
Hi James

I currently have the BDA 1 and use the 4bsst2 and BP17 ( and middle T speakers).  Is the BDA 2 going to be an improvement sound wise, or is it mainly a feature upgrade ?  I am considering an upgrade, but if it is only features that were upgraded I am probably fine as my BDA 1 is good that way. I use it to mainly run digital files through a streamer ( Moon Mind) from a NAS drive.  The streamer and DAC are connected via AES/EBU cable

Hi

Yes the BDP-2 with the new Bryston sound card would be an improvement.

james

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Re: BDA-2 DAC and BDA-3 DAC
« Reply #978 on: 14 Sep 2015, 12:49 am »
James:

Glad to see the BDA-3 is getting close. Sounds like a great piece of gear. As you know, I had an early deposit on one but went another direction eventually. If the reviews come in over the top later this year, I may be back! Model T's, 14bsst, and BDA-3 would be a great combo!

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Re: BDA-2 DAC and BDA-3 DAC
« Reply #979 on: 14 Sep 2015, 12:51 am »
James:

Glad to see the BDA-3 is getting close. Sounds like a great piece of gear. As you know, I had an early deposit on one but went another direction eventually. If the reviews come in over the top later this year, I may be back! Model T's, 14bsst, and BDA-3 would be a great combo!

Hi

Yes I am finally happy with what I am hearing on the BDA-3  :thumb: Sorry for all the delays.

james