BRYSTON BOT-1 (Bryston Optical Transport)

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« Reply #200 on: 31 Aug 2014, 11:07 am »
Chris, that is the first mention of a new power supply that I have seen.  Is it planned to be an update to the MPS-2 and will it handle previous boxes such as the BP 1.5 and BP26 as well as the BOT-1 and other future products?

Tony

Hi Tony!

No, the new power supply is designed to power the new suite of mini-components such as the BOT-1 optical transport and BHD-1 hard disk drive enclosure and possible future products. The components are 1/3 the width of standard 17'' components and it seems that Bryston has designed them as add-on products for the BDP range of digital players.

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« Reply #201 on: 23 Sep 2014, 03:38 pm »
Hi Folks,

Chris put together an update on the Bryston BOT-1 Drive which is attached to the BDP-2 and allows for CD playback.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAimXXR71-0&feature=youtu.be

It is 6 minutes long.

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« Reply #202 on: 24 Sep 2014, 12:00 am »
Hi Tony!

No, the new power supply is designed to power the new suite of mini-components such as the BOT-1 optical transport and BHD-1 hard disk drive enclosure and possible future products. The components are 1/3 the width of standard 17'' components and it seems that Bryston has designed them as add-on products for the BDP range of digital players.

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James,

Is the above post by Antun correct?  The video makes no mention that you will have to buy a new power supply for the BOT-1.  It is surprising that if it needs a separate power supply that the MPS-2 could not be used and that a Bryston system could require two different power supply boxes.

Tony

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« Reply #203 on: 24 Sep 2014, 12:06 am »
James,

Is the above post by Antun correct?  The video makes no mention that you will have to buy a new power supply for the BOT-1.  It is surprising that if it needs a separate power supply that the MPS-2 could not be used and that a Bryston system could require two different power supply boxes.

Tony

The BOT will work with the BDP2 but not the BDP1 as the BDP1 does not have enough current to run the drive on the USB output.

james

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« Reply #204 on: 24 Sep 2014, 04:08 am »
After watching the video, I'm disappointed the BOT doesn't have a tray to load CDs. Instead you feed them into the unit like a car CD player. When you take them out, you get fingerprints on the CD. That's a deal breaker for me at this price level.

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« Reply #205 on: 24 Sep 2014, 09:39 am »
James,

Is the above post by Antun correct?  The video makes no mention that you will have to buy a new power supply for the BOT-1.  It is surprising that if it needs a separate power supply that the MPS-2 could not be used and that a Bryston system could require two different power supply boxes.

Tony


...agreed! i think it's a pity that the MPS2 can't be used with the BOT. it has at least 4 outputs - one is for the 26 and three more are left :cry: ...big supply - little use.

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« Reply #206 on: 24 Sep 2014, 10:53 am »
The BOT will work with the BDP2 but not the BDP1 as the BDP1 does not have enough current to run the drive on the USB output.

james

With it not working with the BDP-1, does that also apply to the new BDP-1USB as well?

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« Reply #207 on: 24 Sep 2014, 11:12 am »
With it not working with the BDP-1, does that also apply to the new BDP-1USB as well?

Yes correct - the BDP-1USB is a BDP-1 without the sound-card.

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« Reply #208 on: 24 Sep 2014, 12:13 pm »
James,

Is the above post by Antun correct?  The video makes no mention that you will have to buy a new power supply for the BOT-1.  It is surprising that if it needs a separate power supply that the MPS-2 could not be used and that a Bryston system could require two different power supply boxes.

Tony

A BDP-2 provides enough power over USB to power the BOT or even the BMS (aka BHD) if 2.5" drive is installed.  The power supply component is needed if your using the BOT with a BDP-1 or installing 3.5" drive in the BMS (Bryston Mass Storage).  The MPS-2 is designed with analog devices, like preamps, phonographs or headphone amps in mind and not digital products.  The BPS (the power supply for the BOT/BMS) is designed for digital products and potentially to be used for analog products (perhaps a dec or preamp).  The BPS transformer will contain three sets of secondary taps:

0-8v @ 5amps for digital circuits requiring 5v or 3.3v
0-14v @ 3amps for digital circuits requiring 12v
20-0-20v @1amp for possible products containing an analog circuit

The MPS-2 does have a 12v output that could be regulated down to the needed 5v for the BOT, however this line is protected by a 500mA fuse that would blow as soon as the BOT (requires 1.6Amps) was powered on.

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Chris
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« Reply #209 on: 24 Sep 2014, 01:13 pm »
Yes correct - the BDP-1USB is a BDP-1 without the sound-card.

james

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« Reply #210 on: 24 Sep 2014, 01:15 pm »
A BDP-2 provides enough power over USB to power the BOT or even the BMS (aka BHD) if 2.5" drive is installed.  The power supply component is needed if your using the BOT with a BDP-1 or installing 3.5" drive in the BMS (Bryston Mass Storage).  The MPS-2 is designed with analog devices, like preamps, phonographs or headphone amps in mind and not digital products.  The BPS (the power supply for the BOT/BMS) is designed for digital products and potentially to be used for analog products (perhaps a dec or preamp).  The BPS transformer will contain three sets of secondary taps:

0-8v @ 5amps for digital circuits requiring 5v or 3.3v
0-14v @ 3amps for digital circuits requiring 12v
20-0-20v @1amp for possible products containing an analog circuit

The MPS-2 does have a 12v output that could be regulated down to the needed 5v for the BOT, however this line is protected by a 500mA fuse that would blow as soon as the BOT was powered on.

Cheers,
Chris

The way you talk about the BMS sounds like it is also getting close to launch. Are you targeting a similar release window as the BOT? Can the BDP-2 power both a BOT and BMS or is it a one or the other sort of thing?

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« Reply #211 on: 24 Sep 2014, 03:57 pm »
The way you talk about the BMS sounds like it is also getting close to launch. Are you targeting a similar release window as the BOT? Can the BDP-2 power both a BOT and BMS or is it a one or the other sort of thing?

You should be able to run both a BOT and BMS off of a BDP-2's USB ports, I havn't tested it yet as i am hesitant to populate additional prototype circuit boards as i am about to submit the final design to our manufacturer.  It is these boards that will be used in units that will be submitted for EMI testing/certification and will end up in production.  The BOT featured in the video was built so the guy's would have something to show off at cedia.

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« Reply #212 on: 24 Sep 2014, 04:01 pm »
The way you talk about the BMS sounds like it is also getting close to launch. Are you targeting a similar release window as the BOT? Can the BDP-2 power both a BOT and BMS or is it a one or the other sort of thing?

The BMS and BOT are almost identical, the differences are:

the bracket to hold the drive in
the cable to connect the drive to the circuit board
Dress panel (same dress panel, minus a slot for the cd)

Everything else is shared; chassis, top, circuit boards, chips, feet, additional cables.

Cheers,
Chris

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« Reply #213 on: 24 Sep 2014, 04:09 pm »
Thanks Chris

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« Reply #214 on: 25 Sep 2014, 03:29 pm »
After watching the video, I'm disappointed the BOT doesn't have a tray to load CDs. Instead you feed them into the unit like a car CD player. When you take them out, you get fingerprints on the CD. That's a deal breaker for me at this price level.

Hi

The new slot drives have much lower noise issues and have better overall build quality because they are designed for laptops.

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« Reply #215 on: 25 Sep 2014, 03:58 pm »
I spent a few days with BOT and, just out of sheer habit, grabbed the disc by the edges to insert and remove it.

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« Reply #216 on: 25 Sep 2014, 04:00 pm »
Slot loading drives don't equate to messing up the disc.  I used a PS3 in a secondary system for a while for Blu-Ray

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« Reply #217 on: 25 Sep 2014, 05:23 pm »
Okay, so when can we expect to see the BOT-1 and it's matching power supply in the store?

Also, Chris mentioned the boards are ready to be given to your manufacturer... Does this mean Bryston hired a company to manufacture this product for them and does this apply to other digital products as well?

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« Reply #218 on: 25 Sep 2014, 05:29 pm »
Okay, so when can we expect to see the BOT-1 and it's matching power supply in the store?

Also, Chris mentioned the boards are ready to be given to your manufacturer... Does this mean Bryston hired a company to manufacture this product for them and does this apply to other digital products as well?

Cheers!
Antun

Hi

No we do all our manufacturing - he just meant the metal work was sent out to be manufactured.

Hope to have product available in a couple of months.

james

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« Reply #219 on: 25 Sep 2014, 06:41 pm »
Hi

No we do all our manufacturing - he just meant the metal work was sent out to be manufactured.

Hope to have product available in a couple of months.

james

Excellent! Thank you very much Sir!

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Antun