The Next Step...

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Re: The Next Step...
« Reply #20 on: 9 Mar 2011, 01:37 am »
Me too, Rick!

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« Reply #21 on: 9 Mar 2011, 01:43 am »
What drivers are you using if you can say? Hiquophon OW1 tweeters?

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« Reply #22 on: 9 Mar 2011, 01:36 pm »
Me too, Rick!

No problem - you are on the list.

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« Reply #23 on: 9 Mar 2011, 04:59 pm »
What drivers are you using if you can say? Hiquophon OW1 tweeters?

Sorry - cannot divulge that right now. There are very specific requirements for this design; in fact, it's been the most complex speaker that I've ever worked on. The driver selection was based on input from the three of us (Don, Marshall, and I). What I can say is that many hours have been invested and we have sampled different drivers to find the right combination. I think the results will speak for themselves.

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« Reply #24 on: 10 Mar 2011, 04:10 pm »
If there's still space... I'd like to join in as well. Thanks Rick!

Dave

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« Reply #25 on: 10 Mar 2011, 10:35 pm »
Rick-
Your comment about sampling different drivers - is the RAAL driver out of the picture for a curved line array or will it be considered at some point in the future?

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« Reply #26 on: 11 Mar 2011, 12:34 am »
RAAL= One expensive line array

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« Reply #27 on: 11 Mar 2011, 01:15 am »
If there's still space... I'd like to join in as well. Thanks Rick!

Dave

Absolutely! Will let you know when.

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« Reply #28 on: 11 Mar 2011, 12:37 pm »
Rick-
Your comment about sampling different drivers - is the RAAL driver out of the picture for a curved line array or will it be considered at some point in the future?

The RAAL is an option.  8)

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Re: The Next Step...
« Reply #29 on: 15 Mar 2011, 12:38 am »
Rick,

What is the projected price point? Will there be a passive version?

Thank you,

Chris

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« Reply #30 on: 15 Mar 2011, 01:56 am »
Rick-
Do you know about what the efficiency will be or is that yet to be determined?

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« Reply #31 on: 15 Mar 2011, 04:45 pm »
Depends on how it's configured but anywhere from 88-97db. Keep in mind this doesn't reduce in volume like a point source as you move further away.

Rick-
Do you know about what the efficiency will be or is that yet to be determined?

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« Reply #32 on: 15 Mar 2011, 11:27 pm »
Possibly a passive version. We are working out the pricing details and I hope to have that available in a few weeks.


Rick,

What is the projected price point? Will there be a passive version?

Thank you,

Chris

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« Reply #33 on: 23 Mar 2011, 02:25 pm »
The pair will be ready for listening today!  :thumb:

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« Reply #34 on: 23 Mar 2011, 05:57 pm »
I would love to hear, as I'm sure we all would, your general impressions of your new creations. Are you thinking about using shading on straight (non-curved) arrays? Keep up the great work Rick!!!

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« Reply #35 on: 23 Mar 2011, 06:50 pm »
I would love to hear, as I'm sure we all would, your general impressions of your new creations. Are you thinking about using shading on straight (non-curved) arrays? Keep up the great work Rick!!!
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It depends on the design. I might be doing a Chicago demo of the new arrays... :wink:

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« Reply #36 on: 23 Mar 2011, 09:20 pm »
Music to my ears :P

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« Reply #37 on: 27 Mar 2011, 12:34 pm »
Listening sessions start this week. If you're on the list I'll be contacting you soon... :thumb:

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« Reply #38 on: 29 Mar 2011, 07:49 pm »
I heard these today, all I can say is WOW! These are some of the best speakers I have ever heard.

Power, dynamics, tonal accuracy, resolution, refinement, imaging, stage depth, so many aspects of the sound were superior to many other speakers I've heard. This is a revolutionary design and a big breakthrough. The "next step" is an appropriate subject line, or maybe the first step in a new chapter.

When I commented to Rick that I was a little surprised at how detailed and refined the treble was despite so many tweeter point sources all with signals in phase which should be smearing the detail. But they weren't, treble was very detailed and refined, even with pro amplifiers. Hardly any power is needed so fancy amps didn't seem so critical in this active amped configuration. Bass was likewise detailed, solid and punchy, and even held good center image at low frequencies when I moved way off to the side.

Tone does not change at all when I stood up or moved toward the speakers. Left to right movement reveals a slight tonal change but I only noticed it on one trumpet recording with which I am very familiar.  Soundstage is more realistic than any other speaker I've heard, especially impressive with instruments in the far rear of the soundstage. Rick played a track from Mapletree sampler with a bari sax playing way back behind the guitar and bass up front. With a compression-free, live stereo recording it was as if he was standing in the back of the shop playing his horn, the illusion was convincing. Full symphony orchestra likewise has a very realistic scale. Huge hall reverb is reproduced perfectly and no shortage of dynamic power or sustained high SPL. Presto on Shostakovich 9th Sympony showed off the ease with which the big speakers peel away all the layers and lay it out in front of you for easy listening. Blasting french horns and solo woodwinds presented equally well. It was playing louder than live, otherwise the illusion is very much like live symphony about 10 rows back. But of course, turning it up is better than live. Awesome!

Flutes and piccolos that sometimes overpower a room sounded just like they do live. they did not overload the room. You get the dynamic peak, but it does not hurt like it does with any other normal speaker I've tried. They sounded like they do with the live symphony.

Don played a funky disc with electric bass and drums to show off the dynamics and bass transient ability. I love dynamic acoustic music, but the dynamics attainable with electric instruments is beyond my tolerance and these were overpowering to me. For rock or synth music these speakers could rip your head off.

I felt the music come alive on every track, always tapping my feet and moving around with the music. These aren't just technical curiosities they carry a tune. Music is very involving and "musical."

The bass clarity was similar to my old Ushers with twin Eton carbon woofers. On Paul Chambers' solo at the beginning of So What I could hear all the rumble and wonderful bass detail and room echo that I could on the Ushers, which has been the best ever for that track. These need a subwoofer to give full feeling in the lowest octave. But we listened with no sub and didn't feel we were missing anything on the music tracks.

Congrats to Don and to Rick and the rest of the team for this masterpiece. I hope you're able to "bottle it" to share with the rest of us. Thanks for the chance to hear the early version and to meet Don.

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Re: The Next Step...
« Reply #39 on: 29 Mar 2011, 08:10 pm »
Good to get some feedback from the initial listening sessions.
Sounds like you had a good time Rich and that this speaker is worth serious consideration for those interested.  I've wanted to hear one of Rick's speakers for awhile now, hopefully this can be the first.