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Industry Circles => ModWright Instruments (MWI) => Topic started by: jobyts on 19 Dec 2016, 12:46 am

Title: Can I connect a microphone to KWI-200?
Post by: jobyts on 19 Dec 2016, 12:46 am
If possible, please educate me how to do it. I have the Modwright integrated amplifier KWI-200. My daughter is into vocals and I prefer not to buy another amp/speaker setup, just for her practice.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Can I connect a microphone to KWI-200?
Post by: Phil A on 19 Dec 2016, 01:07 am
If you have a quarter inch microphone jack then just get an rca adapter
Title: Re: Can I connect a microphone to KWI-200?
Post by: Phil A on 19 Dec 2016, 01:09 am
Something like this for a stereo one quarter inch plug - http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/hosa-mono-1-4-female--2-rca-male-y-cable?cntry=us&source=3WWRWXGP&gclid=CN2YqviI_9ACFUokgQoduzAB2Q&kwid=productads-adid^156727059247-device^c-plaid^267531919113-sku^333091000000000@ADL4MF-adType^PLA
Title: Re: Can I connect a microphone to KWI-200?
Post by: dminches on 19 Dec 2016, 01:35 am
I wouldn't think that the microphone puts out enough voltage to just be used as an input component.

Title: Re: Can I connect a microphone to KWI-200?
Post by: jobyts on 19 Dec 2016, 01:59 am
Thanks Phil for the quick response. Will try the same one you pointed.
Title: Re: Can I connect a microphone to KWI-200?
Post by: dminches on 19 Dec 2016, 02:13 am
"Put simply, microphones don't send a strong enough signal for an AV receiver to use, compared to AV devices that send a signal at 'line level'. To use a microphone in your setup, you need a 'preamp' for the microphone. These are built into 'mixers', usually a dial marked 'gain'."

You are not going to get any volume.  You need a preamp for the mic.
Title: Re: Can I connect a microphone to KWI-200?
Post by: jobyts on 19 Dec 2016, 04:30 am
"Put simply, microphones don't send a strong enough signal for an AV receiver to use, compared to AV devices that send a signal at 'line level'. To use a microphone in your setup, you need a 'preamp' for the microphone. These are built into 'mixers', usually a dial marked 'gain'."

You are not going to get any volume.  You need a preamp for the mic.

Thanks Dminches. But the KWI200 does have a preamp in it, right? Is the preamp functionality bypassed for the RCA ports?
Title: Re: Can I connect a microphone to KWI-200?
Post by: Phil A on 19 Dec 2016, 04:37 am
If you're worried about gain there are always products like - http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/555-17806?scode=GS401&utm_medium=cse&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=google&scid=scplp6880885&sc_intid=555-17806&gclid=CKP897a3_9ACFdg6gQod9-AC4A
Title: Re: Can I connect a microphone to KWI-200?
Post by: srb on 19 Dec 2016, 05:25 am
Get a dedicated microphone preamp with 1/4" and XLR inputs/outputs, adjustable gain, limiter and phantom power.  That way you'll be able to accommodate and gain match most any microphone she might use as well as being able to supply +48V to a condenser microphone should she get one of those.

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MIC100

Steve
Title: Re: Can I connect a microphone to KWI-200?
Post by: dminches on 19 Dec 2016, 12:48 pm
Thanks Dminches. But the KWI200 does have a preamp in it, right? Is the preamp functionality bypassed for the RCA ports?

Think about the microphone like a phono cartridge.  It puts out a low voltage signal which needs to be stepped up.  Even though the KWI200 has a preamp it also needs a phono preamp in order to play records.  Same thing with a microphone.  You need a preamp between the microphone and the KWI200 preamp.  I think some others have suggested some inexpensive preamps that would work.
Title: Re: Can I connect a microphone to KWI-200?
Post by: jobyts on 3 Jan 2017, 07:42 am
I got my Behringer Tube Ultragain MIC200, the 1/4 output connected to the RCA ports of the KWI 200. I got the microphone working with the KWI 200. Now I face a problem that I previously did not think of.

I have a mac mini connected to the USB DAC port of the KWI200. That's how I listen to the youtube audio (video connected to the TV).

My daughter needs the youtube karaoke audio+video and she wants the microphone to sing along. At present, we can do either the youtube audio or the microphone. Is there a way to do this together?

With the KWI 200 DAC, I see an SPDIF port as well. Can I connect the Behringer Tube Ultragain MIC200 output (they provide one 1/4 and one XLR output) to the SPDIF input and do the microphone + macmini audio together?
Can the KWI200 DAC unit process signals from the SPDIF and USB port simultaneously?

Or please suggest the best way to achieve my requirement.

Thanks,
jobyts 
Title: Re: Can I connect a microphone to KWI-200?
Post by: jobyts on 3 Jan 2017, 07:51 am
Carefully looking at the KWI 200 backside picture, D1 mode is for USB and D2 mode is for SPDIF. So it looks like I cannot do it simultaneously  :(
Title: Re: Can I connect a microphone to KWI-200?
Post by: thunderbrick on 3 Jan 2017, 03:28 pm
Simple.  When she sings, you work in the garage.  Arguing with a teenage daughter ranks right up there with arguing with your wife....
Title: Re: Can I connect a microphone to KWI-200?
Post by: jobyts on 3 Jan 2017, 04:12 pm
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