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Title: Bass Duet Recordings
Post by: dB Cooper on 24 Jan 2018, 03:20 am
Lately I have been on a 'kick' listening to duet recordings of bass and another instrument. I got started on this by Charlie Haden and his duet album with Pat Metheny, "Beyond The Missouri Sky". According to the official Haden website, there are 14 duet recordings in Haden's catalog, with guitarists Metheny and Jim Hall as well as others I wasn't familiar with, such as Antonio Forcione ("Heartplay'), pianist Kenny Barron, saxman Ornette Coleman and more.

Other bass duet albums that come to mind:

To name but a few.

As you can surmise from this list, my listening is mostly but not entirely jazz, and there are are bassists such as the amazing multi-genre Edgar Meyer who have recorded duets in other idioms. (That's why I posted in the Music circle rather than the Jazz circle.

I think I'm drawn to this niche mainly for two reasons. One, the music marketplace is awash with so much overproduced crapola that it's nice to hear simple arrangements (I enjoy trios too, another conversation). The interplay, assuming talented players, can be exquisite. There's a 'starkness' and presence that is powerful. No hiding place. You have to be on your game as a player. Second, in this setting, the bass player seems to get to play more melody than you usually hear from the instrument. That is a very different experience than the background role we usually hear the instrument in.

Any other fans of bass duets out there?  Welcoming recommendations and feel free to include cover art if you like. Who knows, maybe someone else out there will look into this sub-genre and become a fan too. Thanks.
Title: Re: Bass Duet Recordings
Post by: FullRangeMan on 24 Jan 2018, 04:09 am
I suspect you will like:
L'Orchestre de Contrebasses(only bass players).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8TRtlANDPM
When I want a round 4/4 bass I listen a Bob Marley best of.
Other great are Sax Gordon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtecuF7yQW0

Some bass players of Art Blakey were top and his pianists used to have a strong left hand, Art himself was not soft hand on the drums, however its not in this album sorry:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOES7AZ-d60
Title: Re: Bass Duet Recordings
Post by: LesterSleepsIn on 24 Jan 2018, 11:48 am
Leaning towards the avant-garde here, the Rivers/Holland on vinyl.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=175060)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=175061)

The Phillips/Morris on cd
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=175063)

This is cello/piano on double cd, leans towards new age
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=175062)

There are solo bass and solo cello recordings as well but perhaps that’s a topic for a different thread.
Title: Re: Bass Duet Recordings
Post by: S Clark on 24 Jan 2018, 01:41 pm
You mentioned Haden and Barron- their Night and the City has long been a favorite. 
(http://bluebeatmusic.com/images/imagecache/250x250_hadennightincity.jpg)
Title: Re: Bass Duet Recordings
Post by: Shakeydeal on 24 Jan 2018, 02:35 pm
Ron Carter - "Piccolo"

This recording is from 1977 and features Ron Carter on Piccolo bass and Buster Williams on double bass. The music is fantastic and the recording is nothing short of excellent, like all of Ron's records. Highly recommended.

Shakey
Title: Re: Bass Duet Recordings
Post by: dB Cooper on 24 Jan 2018, 09:54 pm
I remember 'Piccolo' from my vinyl days! It's a quartet album but thanks for jogging my memory just the same. (The always-tasteful Kenny Barron on piano and Ben Riley on drums.) Might listen to it tonight. Thanks for the other suggestions too, everybody. Keep 'em coming if you can!
Title: Re: Bass Duet Recordings
Post by: dB Cooper on 25 Jan 2018, 01:28 am
Speaking of Ron Carter, you don't find a lot of bass/accordion duets:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=175094)

Very good SQ on this live recording BTW.
Title: Re: Bass Duet Recordings
Post by: FullRangeMan on 25 Jan 2018, 01:34 am
Speaking of Ron Carter, you don't find a lot of bass/accordion duets:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=175094)

Very good SQ on this live recording BTW.
Its better than harmônica :duh:
Title: Re: Bass Duet Recordings
Post by: dB Cooper on 25 Jan 2018, 10:17 am
Sounds like you haven't been listening to the right harmonica players, I suggest you check out Hendrik Meurkens (a Dutchman with a thing for Brazilian music) and maybe Toots Thielemans.
Title: Re: Bass Duet Recordings
Post by: FullRangeMan on 25 Jan 2018, 06:01 pm
No thanks :thumb: Harmonica is nice for sound effects no more than it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVUJ3LJhzsM
Title: Re: Bass Duet Recordings
Post by: tjhendry on 25 Jan 2018, 08:45 pm
Voice and bass.
Look for Sheila Jordan and Harvie Swartz, Nancy King and Glen Moore, and the Italian duo, Musica Nuda.

It’s Winter and I am far from the comforts of home, music collection, and snow.  I don’t remember names of all the great albums by these artists, but “Yesterdays” by Sheila and Harvie is probably my favorite.
Title: Re: Bass Duet Recordings
Post by: Don_S on 25 Jan 2018, 09:03 pm
Bass + Voice

Rob Wasserman "Duets"  Also available on vinyl.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/514f3Y%2BogpL.jpg)

Others in the series:  "Solo" and "Trio"  All three are well recorded.
Title: Re: Bass Duet Recordings
Post by: tjhendry on 25 Jan 2018, 09:37 pm
The last track on “Last Dance” by Haden with Jarrett is the poignant “Goodby”.

An earlier release, “Jasmine”, came from same recording sessions.
Title: Re: Bass Duet Recordings
Post by: LesterSleepsIn on 26 Jan 2018, 12:53 am
Voice and bass.
Look for Sheila Jordan and Harvie Swartz, Nancy King and Glen Moore, and the Italian duo, Musica Nuda.

It’s Winter and I am far from the comforts of home, music collection, and snow.  I don’t remember names of all the great albums by these artists, but “Yesterdays” by Sheila and Harvie is probably my favorite.

Studies have shown that people’s memories worsen when they leave the snugly comforts of hearth and home and hightail it for unfamiliar warmer and sunnier climes, Tom. The Jordan/Swartz recordings are better than the Jordan/Cameron Brown recordings, imo. The ‘Old Time Feeling’ recording is a favorite.

More cello/guitar of note:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=175125)
Title: Re: Bass Duet Recordings
Post by: ArthurDent on 26 Jan 2018, 01:39 am
Am guessing this may be one you were eluding to earlier with regards to Mr. Meyer...

         (https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81-2kdaMetL._SL500_.jpg)

Don't have this, but saw a PBS show on a tour they did together some time back which probably came from this.
Title: Re: Bass Duet Recordings
Post by: dB Cooper on 26 Jan 2018, 04:48 am
No thanks :thumb: Harmonica is nice for sound effects no more than it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVUJ3LJhzsM

Bullsh*t:
https://youtu.be/zoauBe465qQ

Arthur: Yep
Title: Re: Bass Duet Recordings
Post by: FullRangeMan on 26 Jan 2018, 05:08 am
Bullsh*t:
https://youtu.be/zoauBe465qQ

Arthur: Yep
OK this guy is good.
Title: Re: Bass Duet Recordings
Post by: tjhendry on 26 Jan 2018, 03:32 pm


Since Richard brought cello/guitar recordings into conversation I’d like to add two recordings.

Back in the 70s ECM was a treasure trove of music for exploration and expansion.  One recording that extended my comfort zone was the Circle Paris concert.  Chick Corea seemed like a safe choice but the first listen was challenging.  Undaunted, I stuck with it...perhaps with masochistic persistence.  Decades later that album defines one edge of my multi-faceted, eclectic comfort zone. 
A few years later I found a used Dave Holland/Derek Bailey lp, Improvisations for Cello and Guitar. 

I had survived Holland in Circle and Conference of the Birds.  ECM guitar meant Ralph Towner to me, or a newer name like Abercrombie.  I still love Gateway!  Those thoughts lead me to think "What can go wrong?"  it must have been about 1980 when I found the very early ECM recording of Holland and Bailey.  It proved to be well outside my realm of music appreciation.  Maybe Richard will declare that it is a masterpiece.  I present it for your consideration.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=175150)




Title: Re: Bass Duet Recordings
Post by: arthurs on 26 Jan 2018, 03:45 pm
This is really bad ass.  Great performance and great recording...

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=175151)
Title: Re: Bass Duet Recordings
Post by: dB Cooper on 26 Jan 2018, 04:11 pm
Thanks, arthurs. That looks really interesting; I'll probably listen to that tonight. Edit: arthurs is right- great music and fantastic recording ^

tjhendry, I didn't know Holland plays cello too... That and the other cello duets in this thread seem worth investigating too (although it seems like the cello- in general-seems to be considered more of a soloing instrument than the bass.)
Title: Re: Bass Duet Recordings
Post by: LesterSleepsIn on 26 Jan 2018, 05:58 pm

Since Richard brought cello/guitar recordings into conversation I’d like to add two recordings.


A few years later I found a used Dave Holland/Derek Bailey lp, Improvisations for Cello and Guitar. 

I had survived Holland in Circle and Conference of the Birds.  it must have been about 1980 when I found the very early ECM recording of Holland and Bailey.  It proved to be well outside my realm of music appreciation.  Maybe Richard will declare that it is a masterpiece.  I present it for your consideration.


After many exhausting hours of meditation, self-reflection and fasting from all food and drink - ok, maybe it was just for a few minutes - I declare the Holland/Bailey a masterpiece, though for some it will probably be placed in the “maybe not for me” drawer. The same can be said for Conference of the Birds.

Holland has solo bass and solo cello recordings as well. Quite nice. (That nice man who broke into the house in 1978 took them, along with the other lps and the stereo. How considerate.)

There’s some very nice classical and jazz SOLO bass recordings but perhaps that’s the topic for another thread?

Meanwhile, I have more Jones and Maruri

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=175175)

And this:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=175176)

And yes, the Xavier and Carter does look bad ass. Just ordered it. Thanks.



Title: Re: Bass Duet Recordings
Post by: dB Cooper on 26 Jan 2018, 11:59 pm

I present it for your consideration.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=175150)
Channeling Rod Serling there, tj?  :lol:
Title: Re: Bass Duet Recordings
Post by: TJ-Sully on 27 Jan 2018, 01:17 am
here's one:  http://www.thilemeyer.com

and...also a duet with mandolin & piano..


(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=175191)

Title: Re: Bass Duet Recordings
Post by: FullRangeMan on 30 Jan 2018, 01:54 am
John Patitucci, Victor Wooten, Victor Bailey, Steve Bailey:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNXS7Zyda6Q