Don Sachs SP14 Tube Preamp Review

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alexscotti

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Re: Don Sachs SP14 Tube Preamp Review
« Reply #140 on: 16 Jun 2017, 07:47 pm »
Time for me to get off the fence...

How much does Don's amp weigh, and what are its dimensions without tubes?

Thanks,

Michael

I'm emailing Don now to place an order, but I won't actually need it till October, I think. Gee. What shall I do...?

 :dance:

So I just placed an order for the pre amp.  He said it's going to be ready in the fall.  So you may not have to worry about getting things early. :)

mresseguie

Re: Don Sachs SP14 Tube Preamp Review
« Reply #141 on: 16 Jun 2017, 08:10 pm »
So I just placed an order for the pre amp.  He said it's going to be ready in the fall.  So you may not have to worry about getting things early. :)

From personal experience....you're gonna be one happy camper... :thumb: :banana piano: :hyper:


richidoo

Re: Don Sachs SP14 Tube Preamp Review
« Reply #142 on: 16 Jun 2017, 11:20 pm »
Guess we better order now if we want it for our Christmas present?  :D

rickmusicman

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Re: Don Sachs SP14 Tube Preamp Review
« Reply #143 on: 16 Jun 2017, 11:35 pm »
When I ordered my preamp 4 weeks ago, Don said there was a 8 week wait, not sure what it is now.

Blueone302

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Re: Don Sachs SP14 Tube Preamp Review
« Reply #144 on: 17 Jun 2017, 02:55 am »
Michael, the dimensions on the KT-88 amp are:  13 1/2" deep, 17 1/2" wide.  Height is: 7 3/4 to top of transformer.  8 1/2 to top w/ PS Vane KT-88 Tubes.  I didn't measure what it would be w/o feet and tubes.  The shipping info from UPS said 52 lbs.  That could have been for both pieces.  I put the boxes in the storage building.  I'll verify and let you know. J

mresseguie

Re: Don Sachs SP14 Tube Preamp Review
« Reply #145 on: 17 Jun 2017, 03:12 am »
Thanks, Blueone.

Even though it would probably fit in the carry on luggage I used for the Gustard and the preamp, I think I will buy either a pelican case or a beefier polycarbonate suitcase for the amplifier. I don't want to risk damage. The tubes would be placed in a separate case.

Michael
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sabciu

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Re: Don Sachs SP14 Tube Preamp Review
« Reply #146 on: 17 Jun 2017, 03:33 am »
When I ordered my preamp 4 weeks ago, Don said there was a 8 week wait, not sure what it is now.

I got my order in as well, and he gave me similar lead time. So we're in for a long wait, but one that'll hopefully be extraordinarily rewarding! :thumb:

Blueone302

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Re: Don Sachs SP14 Tube Preamp Review
« Reply #147 on: 17 Jun 2017, 03:57 am »
The Decware AMP shipped in a Pelican Case. They are bulletproof.  But they ain't cheap.  I think Don has shipped overseas.  You might check with him on his thoughts.  I do know the way he had the KT-88 amp packed was pretty substantial.  It was double boxed and there were gouges on both ends of the outer box.  But the inner was pristine.

mresseguie

Re: Don Sachs SP14 Tube Preamp Review
« Reply #148 on: 17 Jun 2017, 07:12 pm »
Good gracious, me!  I just paid my downpayment.  8)

9 to 10 weeks is the best guess for my amp's completion now. I told him he ought to consider taking fewer orders so as to avoid burn out....after he finishes my amp, of course!  :icon_twisted:

Momentum is building, folks....can you all see that wave on the horizon? It's the Don Sachs Audio wave acomin'!  :hyper: :drums: :violin: :banana piano: :weights: :beer:

Blueone302

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Re: Don Sachs SP14 Tube Preamp Review
« Reply #149 on: 18 Jun 2017, 02:32 am »
<Michael, 52 lbs on the amp boxed.  I'm guessing 49lbs.

sabciu

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Re: Don Sachs SP14 Tube Preamp Review
« Reply #150 on: 27 Jun 2017, 01:59 pm »
Good gracious, me!  I just paid my downpayment.  8)

9 to 10 weeks is the best guess for my amp's completion now. I told him he ought to consider taking fewer orders so as to avoid burn out....after he finishes my amp, of course!  :icon_twisted:

AND MINE!!  :evil: :evil: :lol:

richidoo

Re: Don Sachs SP14 Tube Preamp Review
« Reply #151 on: 27 Jun 2017, 02:17 pm »
Good gracious, me!  I just paid my downpayment.  8)

Wicked! Congrats.

mresseguie

Re: Don Sachs SP14 Tube Preamp Review
« Reply #152 on: 27 Jun 2017, 03:26 pm »
Richidoo,

Bring the family to Taiwan; hand them over to a tour company, and then come to my house for a listening experience (D Sachs amp and preamp, Daedalus Apollos and Kavalan Solist Sherry Cask Single Malt, and delicious delicacies).

mresseguie

Re: Don Sachs SP14 Tube Preamp Review
« Reply #153 on: 27 Jun 2017, 03:29 pm »
Good gracious, me!  I just paid my downpayment.  8)

9 to 10 weeks is the best guess for my amp's completion now. I told him he ought to consider taking fewer orders so as to avoid burn out....after he finishes my amp, of course!  :icon_twisted:

AND MINE!!  :evil: :evil: :lol:

Sabciu,

Are you getting both the pre and the amp?

Michael

sabciu

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Re: Don Sachs SP14 Tube Preamp Review
« Reply #154 on: 27 Jun 2017, 03:51 pm »
Sabciu,

Are you getting both the pre and the amp?

Michael

Hi Michael, no I am only getting the Pre for now. I may pick up the Amp in the future, you know how it goes. For now I'm going to run Bob Latino's M-125 Mono Blocks  :thumb:

Emilio

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Re: Don Sachs SP14 Tube Preamp Review
« Reply #155 on: 30 Jun 2017, 01:52 am »
sabciu

I have both Don Sachs preamp and Bob Latino's M-125. They match perfectly. You won't regret it and for those waiting on Don's preamp or amp or both. The wait is worth it. I ordered my preamp last September or Octocber of 2016 and received it early December of 2016. You guys will not be disappointed at all.

sabciu

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Re: Don Sachs SP14 Tube Preamp Review
« Reply #156 on: 17 Jul 2017, 10:50 pm »
sabciu

I have both Don Sachs preamp and Bob Latino's M-125. They match perfectly. You won't regret it and for those waiting on Don's preamp or amp or both. The wait is worth it. I ordered my preamp last September or Octocber of 2016 and received it early December of 2016. You guys will not be disappointed at all.

Great!! That is really good to hear. I just finished up the build of Bob's M-125's. The build went very well and both Amps's powered up and Biased properly without a hitch! I'm just working on some finishing touches on them  :thumb:. These Amps look and already sound very promising. There's just something about that All Tube sound that's addicting and irresistible.

The build of my Pre won't start until the end of this month, so I am hoping to have it by some time early August.

earwig

Re: Don Sachs SP14 Tube Preamp Review
« Reply #157 on: 20 Jul 2017, 01:09 pm »
Is that like an audio research sp14?

tommydoan84

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Re: Don Sachs SP14 Tube Preamp Review
« Reply #158 on: 25 Jul 2017, 05:12 am »






hi Whitestix

I'm interested in used  SP14 tube preamp. If you still have some of your SP14 gears available for sale. Please let me know,
Thanks,
Tom

I had a Harmon Kardon Citation I and II for years in my closet that I had been trying to get Jim McShane to upgrade.  Jim was too busy so he suggested I contact Don Sachs to have the upgrades performed.  Don has a long history of doing upgrades on tube electronics and is Jim's go-to guy for such work.  Don upgraded both the HK amp and preamp and they were absolutely stunning, dead quite in operation.  Don has now taken the great SP14 tube preamp design from Roy Mottram at "tubesforhifi" and is selling these preamps with several upgrades and optionality for buyers.  In contrast to Roy's original design, Don puts the basic SP14 circuitry in a custom-made wood cabinet with the tubes exposed on top for better cooling and access for those of us who like to roll tubes (brilliant).   Don has spend countless hours listening to the preamp with a variety of upgrades caps, as well as the very fine 48-step Khozmo volume pot and has come up with a winner. 

I got the preamp a few months ago, with XLR connectors and upgraded Mundorf Silver Oil caps that Don prefers.  I use it with a Emovita UPA-200 to drive Linkwitz LXmini speakers, quite amazing DIY speakers if you are not familiar with them.  I had been using a Dared SL200a tube preamp and loved the sound of the system with the modestly-priced preamp.  Well, it was a moment of magic when I swapped the Dared out and hooked up Don's preamp.  OMG, the clarity of the sound was instantly far more vivid and the increase in the frequency extension on both ends was profoundly different than with the Dared.  I could have sworn that a subwoofer had been added with the increased presence of the LF response!  The music literally hung in a 3-D soundstage in front of my eyes, with enormous air around each instrument.  Each instrument had a weight, vididness, and presence that was totally lacking with the Dared preamp.  Don's preamp is, to my ears, a much more detailed preamp even than the venerable HK C-I, no question about it.

Now if we compare Don's preamp topology to that of the C-I, there is a noticeable difference and therein lies the magic of Don's preamp.  The C-I uses a total of nine tubes, including 12AX7's and 12AU7's if I recall correctly, but Don's new preamp uses four 6SN7's and one rectifier tube.  Don has long believed the 6SN7's are perfect for tube preamps and inherently have the ability to create the immense soundstage and clarity in presentation of music that the 12XX7 variants are unable to.  Don's preamp is the quite simply the greatest improvement I have ever experienced in my 45 years of listening to my system.  I have rolled some fantastic, and not very expensive, NOS GE and Sylvania 6SN7's tubes into the preamp and I enhanced the sound of my system to a degree over the already very good NOS Russian tubes that Don uses in his preamp.  I got a cache of these NOS 6SN7's, so by my estimation, I have enough stock to run the preamp the rest of my life. 

I think Don's preamp will compare very favorably with a lot of mega-buck tube preamps on the market today, but in fact sells his preamp in the range of about $1700 depending on what upgrades the buyer might choose.  I might swap every other piece of gear in my system at some point, but I concluded that I will never look to upgrade Don's preamp.  Don is an analogue guy through and through and will tell you that he prefers tube amps as well (in fact, he is designing one at the moment to go along with this fantastic tube phone preamp and the SP14), but to my ears, a fine tube preamp with a SS amp is the best of both worlds (and I need a 4-channel amp for my Linkwitz speakers).  I encourage all the C&C folks here to check out the website below if this review has piqued your interest.  I have spent a boatload of money over the past 10 year on different amplification (the latest was the top-of-the line Modwright gear), and Don's preamp is the stellar performer in my system.  Literally, I had no idea what I was missing in the performance of my system until I got Don's preamp and other audiophiles who have heard my system before and after have come to the same conclusion.  And, on top of it, Don is one of the nicest guys you will meet in the business and has a profoundly great ear for music. Highly recommended, to say the least. 
http://www.tubes4hifi.com/DON.htm

mresseguie

Re: Don Sachs SP14 Tube Preamp Review
« Reply #159 on: 9 Aug 2017, 03:55 am »
Is that like an audio research sp14?

Hello, Earwig.

I know that Don's SP14 (now called his Model 2) preamp is based on Tubes4hifi's SP14 preamp. I also know that Tubes4hifi sells SP9, SP12, and SP14 preamps. However, I do not know if they are related to or based upon Audio Research preamps. There may be someone who follows this thread who knows the answer to your question.

Michael