Thanks Frends,
I feel that the difference, between, the classic, and the reference, is were other people, are trying, to improve!!
1. The classic arm is made of steel, or alimunen, yet a upgrade was offered, by a 3rd party, made of cabon fibre, any improvement??
2. The Classic that I own was made in New Zealand, using there hardwood, which has 3 layes of the above, there has been a layer of fine lead, between, the 3 layers, of wood or PDF. However the reference is made of fountain marble, more mass, then the above, I'm sure!!
3. My classic has a a marigo audio clamp, around the tonearm cup!!, yet the Rererence, has addressed, this issure, buy beefing up there tonearm cup, with a extra layer, inside to improve damping, what the Marigo, was doing!!, A importer, or the well tempered was pissed of when I bought the new reference, from old stock, I paid $2,500 Aus, for a unused unit, now my name is garbage, down here as I bought a Reference, made in the USA, I wish to ask why would a unit made in China, like all new models, be supperiour??, I mean the design is the same, but what I have seen, build is "cheap" looking!!.
The reason for this thead, is everone, recond's the new models, are beter, than the earlier models, let's dicussed this!!
David