B135 vs Separates

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Ryder35

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Re: B135 vs Separates
« Reply #20 on: 2 Feb 2017, 03:01 pm »
not always...yes more flexibility for the future with separates. A pre power combo in my young experience has always sounded better than a integrated when compared.  On the flip side you have more boxes and they cost more, that's where sound per pound comes in play.

Interesting isn't it? James is the first industry insider to admit that their pre and power sounds the same as the integrated and he should know. As for flexibility this worried me initially until I realised that the cost to change (assuming a £2k trad in for a used 2.5b cubed would be the same (I would just save the £2k now and lose it if I then added a 4b without trade in as I would need to keep the 135 as a pre)

Anyway I have ordered a 135 plus chord 2Qute DAC and Rega Aria Phono stage to replace my Devialet 400s. Can't wait!

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« Reply #21 on: 2 Feb 2017, 03:19 pm »
I wont get into a pissing match but many many times Ive heard from the company reps the BDA-2 sounds the same as the BDA-3 with less features.  Not true the BDA-3 is a better unit and defiantly has a more organic sound to it.  Ill leave that as is

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« Reply #22 on: 2 Feb 2017, 03:23 pm »
I wont get into a pissing match but many many times Ive heard from the company reps the BDA-2 sounds the same as the BDA-3 with less features.  Not true the BDA-3 is a better unit and defiantly has a more organic sound to it.  Ill leave that as is

Hi Mike

Hope the factory rep was not me  :duh:  - The BDA3 uses a completely different DAC.

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« Reply #23 on: 2 Feb 2017, 03:25 pm »
Was not you. 

I would never throw anyone under the bus from this company ever.  Bryston staff have been nothing but a pleasure to deal with and Im still tickled how amazing my BP26, 2.5 cubed, BDA-3 and Pi combo sounds.

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« Reply #24 on: 2 Feb 2017, 04:00 pm »
Anyway I have ordered a 135 plus chord 2Qute DAC and Rega Aria Phono stage to replace my Devialet 400s. Can't wait!

Just so you know, the MM card in the 135 is plenty good if you're limiting yourself to MM or HOMC.

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« Reply #25 on: 2 Feb 2017, 04:15 pm »
Just so you know, the MM card in the 135 is plenty good if you're limiting yourself to MM or HOMC.

Thanks for the advice. The Aria is a known quantity to me so I will stick with that. MM at the moment but who knows when the upgrade bug will bite again!

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« Reply #26 on: 2 Feb 2017, 06:27 pm »
Ryder let us know your impressions when your new B135cubed will arrive

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« Reply #27 on: 3 Feb 2017, 01:33 pm »
Hi James,

can I ask you the when pictures of B135cubed and its manual will be available on Bryston's website?

Do you think that the new version of B135 (the cubed one) is a remarkable update compared to the "old" B135?

Have a nice day!

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« Reply #28 on: 3 Feb 2017, 03:09 pm »
Hi James,

can I ask you the when pictures of B135cubed and its manual will be available on Bryston's website?

Do you think that the new version of B135 (the cubed one) is a remarkable update compared to the "old" B135?

Have a nice day!

Hi Grant

Should be soon.

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« Reply #29 on: 3 Feb 2017, 03:22 pm »
Hi Grant

Here's a shot for you:







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martydmnt

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Re: B135 vs Separates
« Reply #30 on: 3 Feb 2017, 03:40 pm »
Here's a shot for you:



Very nice looking, I like the flat face plate and the placement of the logo in the center.

James, I know the squared series amps aren't upgradable to the cubed. I assume the same is true for the B135 squared?

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« Reply #31 on: 3 Feb 2017, 05:36 pm »
Hi Grant

Here's a shot for you:








james

Many thanks!!

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« Reply #32 on: 3 Feb 2017, 07:05 pm »
Very nice looking, I like the flat face plate and the placement of the logo in the center.

James, I know the squared series amps aren't upgradable to the cubed. I assume the same is true for the B135 squared?

Yes - same issues so no upgrade path.

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« Reply #33 on: 3 Feb 2017, 10:13 pm »
James, at what serial number did the B135 begin having the cubed amp section?

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« Reply #34 on: 4 Feb 2017, 01:22 am »
James, at what serial number did the B135 begin having the cubed amp section?

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Not sure on that - will have to check

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« Reply #35 on: 4 Feb 2017, 01:53 am »
James, at what serial number did the B135 begin having the cubed amp section?

HI

New serial # sequence.  Started at 001.

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Re: B135 vs Separates
« Reply #36 on: 8 Feb 2017, 11:26 am »
Hi,

as James promised, the pictures of B135cubed are now online http://www.bryston.com/products/power_amps/B135-3.html
 :D

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« Reply #37 on: 8 Feb 2017, 11:26 am »
Now only the manual is missing  :wink:

Ryder35

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« Reply #38 on: 10 Feb 2017, 06:14 pm »
Quick update

Got the amp home on Wednesday and all set up. Sounding good. Today however I noticed that after about an hour of use the amp was getting quite hot. I had it plugged directly into the mains which can run at up to 250-260v on a bad day so turned off and plugged it into my mains regenerator that puts out a nice constant 230v. Left it for 5 mins and then hit the on button. Lights flashed and...pop all lights on the amp went out. Blown fuse on the back of the unit. Of course it was too late to find one locally but have now found a local shop with stock of the requiered fuses so will pick a pack up tomorrow.

Any thought on why the fuse blew and should I be worried?

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Re: B135 vs Separates
« Reply #39 on: 10 Feb 2017, 07:22 pm »
Any thought on why the fuse blew and should I be worried?

Maybe the power regenerator is constant but not that nice?  ;)

The next questions would be what are the power regenerator, speaker load and speaker cables?

Edit:  Ryder35 Reply #4 indicates Focal Sopra No2 speakers

Nice speakers!  At 91dB sensitivity and 8Ω nominal / 3.1Ω minimum impedance should be a reasonable load for the B135.

Steve