I recommend posting this question in the Triode Wire Labs Circle and the Zen Wave Circles too.
John
You need to give a price range with a limit otherwise the suggestions will be all over the map including the usual "use the black one that came in the box" crowd.
Samac
I found the Wireworld Stratus to be thin sounding on the ST-10 though it was o.k. on the DAC-10. What caused me to move away though on both pieces was the IEC connector which didn't want to stay put and the difficulty routing due to the unusual shape. The Neotech just sounds more authoritative to me.
hello,
I'm trying to look for an upgrade on my power cords for the Reference20. I'm wondering what you are using for Nuprime amplifiers that fit very well.
John
He explained something to me about how the power cord's copper acts like an electron reservoir.Please, this is so full of shit.
Thanks for all the advice. I'll try to contact Triode Wire Labs to see what suggestion is offered.
In Taiwan, Neotech is quite easy to be available. So, I may have change to test, too.
Please, this is so full of shit.
You can do all sorts of wizardry with shielding and geometry and configurations to affect a cable's LCR values, but concerning the flow of electrons in the material itself... the only way you can control that is from the outright manufacturing of the original bulk wire. I am positive there are zero boutique cable makers who have that kind of clout and expertise that they can custom order the megaspools of specially produced wire. Even if they could, the differences would be so marginal as to be nonexistent.
If that's exactly what he told me? Probably right.
But, this much I can recall. He did say this. Electrons do not move lightning fast like many assume. I had to learn that lesson the hard way in the DIY forum. I was jumped on when I spoke about electrons moving rapidly down the wires. At that time I was promptly given documentation showing that is not the case. Here is what I just found online about the matter.https://www.uu.edu/dept/physics/scienceguys/2001Nov.cfm (https://www.uu.edu/dept/physics/scienceguys/2001Nov.cfm)
You can do all sorts of wizardry with shielding and geometry and configurations to affect a cable's LCR values, but concerning the flow of electrons in the material itself... the only way you can control that is from the outright manufacturing of the original bulk wire. I am positive there are zero boutique cable makers who have that kind of clout and expertise that they can custom order the megaspools of specially produced wire. Even if they could, the differences would be so marginal as to be nonexistent.
mate, frequency proves electrons have astonishing speed, 1 GHZ is 1.000.000.000 hz per second,the period is P=1/F the speed of electrons in the period of that frequency is velocity = wavelength x frequency.
cheERS
Hi, John.
If you're not in a hurry to try new PCs, I will be back in Taiwan by November. I have 2 TWL power cords - a digital American and a 10+. My wife and I have a place in Taoyuan City. You're welcome to try either of the power cords. I've also got a PC from the guy who made my preamp that might interest you. It cost just $109 USD, though I took it to Taiwan in my luggage.
Alternatively, there's a great audio DIY shop in Taipei called THLaudio.com. It's located between Fuxing and Jianguo Roads fairly close to Shimin Da Dao. Ah-Chuan Tsai is very knowledgeable about audio. I'm certain he could set you up with great DIY PCs or they could add connectors for a small fee. Tell him Michael sent you in. Oh, wait. Do you speak Mandarin? Ah-Chuan's English is not the best, but he's very enthusiastic about audio (and scotch).
Where on the island are you located?
Michael
I'm not sure how you would control electron flow in the manufacturing process other than gauge and material, but electron flow (or rather electron migration) is not electricity. Electrons migrate relatively slowly through a cable carrying current, electricity is a wave function, two very different things.
..............................................................I learned from an AC power expert Ralph Morrison, that the shorter the AC power cord the better. At least at the theoretical level. It's highly unlikley that you could hear or measure small differences.
I learned from a power cord designer (and audio designer) that shorter cords will not sound as good as cords at least 6 feet (2 meters) long.
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Boy, the Fluxfield people sure do take a lot of engineering out of context. Like triboelectric noise on a power cord, nope. And longer cords are better than shorter cords, nope.
Well something like this would be nice:
https://www.ramelectronics.net/PC.aspx
Belden makes good cords and Marineco makes good connectors. But it's probable more than is needed in most cases.
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Don't expect it to sound any different than many other good cords.
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When power cords start sounding different, then something is wrong. Ether in your set-up or in the cord.
Looks like a good cord. Some good ones sell for even less... But? This is never asked. May I ask what you listen with that you can not hear differences? ................................Why i listen with well designed equipment, that doesn't have power cord problems.
Why i listen with well designed equipment, that doesn't have power cord problems.
Sometimes the cheaper cord does more than you expect and beats the uber-priced ones.
In the end, it's....wire that conducts electrons.
More important is the power supply inside the gear.
We are an engineering company. Sure, I never say that you won't hear any difference with an expensive power cord, but the effect is not what we can "understand" and we are not in the business of making "subjective" hearing test. What I objected is the unscientific theory people put out. Usually this is the case since nobody can explain the difference in hearing, they made up some theory.
I suspect it is due to better shielding on expensive cord. Perhaps we can try to wrap a copper foil on the standard power cord and let one of you guys evaluate.
By the way, his video also mentioned about vinyl and CD. Some people swear that vinyl will always sound better than digital music, and there is no such thing. Mark Waldrep from AIX is an expert recording engineer and he gave a very good explanation. It all depends on how it was recorded. Basically we need to compare apple to apple.
And this, on top of great sounding equipment, is why I stick to NuPrime: no bullsh*t technical nonsense, but true scientific approach to selling your products!
Thanks for chiming in here, I'm getting tired of all this Voodoo claiming to change the flow of electrons to produce better sound! WTF! :(
Thanks Jason!
BTW, it is a known scientific fact that litz wire carries high frequency better due to transmission principles. You can buy industrial litz transmission cables for cheap.
There are suppliers on alibaba.com that sell in a spool that is cheap enough to give it a try:
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Pure-Silver-9999-Stranded-Litz-Wire_60529490981.html?spm=a2700.7724838.2017115.226.6d3da21uZnXLo (https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Pure-Silver-9999-Stranded-Litz-Wire_60529490981.html?spm=a2700.7724838.2017115.226.6d3da21uZnXLo)
I didn't look close enough whether it is a good fit. Seems pretty good, someone could make a speaker cable with nice connector and mark up 1000%. $0.09 per meter, minimum order 610 meters (a lot more than your 40 feet, but hey, it is very cheap to get the whole spool)
Is that actually per meter? because I think that makes it cheaper than raw silver...
In any event, starting at 26awg you'll need at least 16 wires to bring down to 14awg if you're making speaker cables.
I noticed they were smart and marked the speaker cable for direction. Once it burns in it will become directional. I have accidentally reversed direction of my speaker cables and heard an immediate difference. If your system is transparent enough you will notice these sort of things.
I am assuming that your new cable is solid core? From what I can see from their web page, its copper core with silver plating. (thank God for Google Translate!) Wink2
I used to believe cable won't make much difference, but I recently upgraded my speaker cable from $20 (cheapest I can find in Hong Kong) to $40/pair (a pre-made HIFI cable from Taiwan), and I can hear a huge difference between two. I am sure the difference is measurable.
The old cheap cable is a lot louder in HF but missing mid range, it felt like the tweeter was doing all the work. The new cable is a lot more balance than the old one. When I hook up both cable to my left and right speaker to compare them at the same time, the old cable is much louder in HF and I even doubted my new cable wasn't making any sound!
Sciences tell us cable cannot make difference to a certain range of frequency because it is a passive device. From this experience, it tells me it is not true. Manufacture can make a cable that sounds different. Of course, I was comparing a very poor cable to a solid cable, I am not sure the difference would be that much on cable that cost > $500.
https://imgur.com/a/DxjOf
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I am using Nuprime DAC-9/STA-9 with Focal 926. I once thought the brightness was coming from the gears because both brands are known to be "bright". It troubles me for a while until I tried this new cable, I am finally satisfy with the combo now :D
Scott
Might want to consider one of the TWL cords for sale in the Trading Post. I am using them on the amp, preamp and conditioner and Neotech on the rest in the Main system. In the system with the Nuprime gear I am using a Neotech on the ST-10 and Cullen Cable on the rest of the gear. The Cullen's are good cables at fair prices and Patrick is a really good guy. From all reports Dave at Zenwave makes good stuff too just never tried any.
I got some new cables from IeGO. They are the newer version of my current C3.5. I'll reply the result, soon.