I LOVE these IEMs! I was at CanJam last weekend in Costa Mesa and listened to everything from UE, JH, Noble, 1964, Final, and many others and one IEM was more disappointing than the next! It seemed the more crap they stuff into them, the more congested the sound got. The Havi's are certainly not the final word in detail, and they don't have thunderous bass, but they do hit a very sweet spot, they sound natural and seem to have a slight bump around 200Hz or so, very slight, and even though I've been looking for a better IEM, I still haven't found one...