TDSS upgrade of IDA-16

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Tom Davis

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TDSS upgrade of IDA-16
« on: 19 Aug 2017, 06:10 pm »
I wanted to pass along my experience with the TDSS upgrade to the IDA-16.

First, I want to reiterate two commonly experienced points about the IDA-1. It is dead quiet, and it is neutral. When a strikingly low noise floor is added to tonal neutrality, the result is that you simply get whatever is there in the recording. If the recording engineer decided to add "air" with the digital equivalent of a "hot" miking, well, that's what you get with the IDA-16. Back in the day when I wrote reviews for Positive Feedback, I used Rosanne Cash's 10 Song Demo for the simple clarity of its nuanced presentation of her voice, but then also to see how a new piece of gear dealt with the hot miking of its opening track. The IDA-16 on its own just passed it along through my Selah Audio Extremas, the question then became what would the TDSS upgrade do to the inevitable glare built into that recording.

Well, at first, indeed for more than 200 hours of listening, the TDSS upgrade didn't change the presentation of that glare one way or the other. Then after those 200 hours, I began to notice two things: the noise floor seemed even lower, which I honestly didn't think would be possible, and then about an hour into each listening session, the whole gestalt of Cash's voice became more present as, well, just plain *her* voice. ---And, yes, that is exactly what you want from an upgrade in the high end, you want the music you love to become noticeably more itself in all its nuanced details.

Up until those roughly 200 hours of listening, I had begun to wonder if the TDSS upgrade was really worth the money (which is honestly not that much given high-end prices nowadays). But as I come into 300 hours of listening, yes it clearly is. You just have to be patient to hear the virtues of the mods that Bob Smith has worked out for the already wonderful IDA-16.

Tom Davis

Tom Davis

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Re: TDSS upgrade of IDA-16
« Reply #1 on: 19 Aug 2017, 07:04 pm »
Hmmm...rereading what I just posted, I didn't make one point sufficiently clear: going into 300 hours of listening to the TDSS upgrade of the IDA-16 with the even lower noise floor and the greater sense of "there" there, the sheer timbral accuracy of presentation, what happened to that hot-mike opening track of Rosanne Cash's 10 Song Demo? Well, the glare is still there but, curiously, it doesn't bother me nearly as much. Meaning: I *can* notice it and go, "Well, yes, there it is." But it's not getting under my skin in the way it used to do when the IDA-16 simply accurately presented a decision by the recording engineer. ---And, again, though it took a long time, that's exactly the kind of change on which you want to spend your money in the high end.

Tom

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Re: TDSS upgrade of IDA-16
« Reply #2 on: 25 Aug 2017, 01:07 am »
First, had my NuForce STA 100 TDSS upgraded.   Saw a change that gave the singers and instruments a greater sense of owning their own space. 

Then I upgraded to the NuPrime ST10. No questions asked.  Ordered it with the TDSS upgrade included.   At times I feel that I am at the actual performance of live performances.