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Title: Out due to an injury (update)
Post by: Danny Richie on 3 Jul 2017, 11:21 pm
Danny suffered an injury in a soccer game on Sunday. It is probably a separated shoulder.  He is unable to do much of anything right now.  Please be patient with us while responding to messages and getting orders out.
- Kristy Richie
Title: Re: Out due to an injury
Post by: mlundy57 on 3 Jul 2017, 11:27 pm
Hope he gets feeling better and that nothing is broke

Mike
Title: Re: Out due to an injury
Post by: JakeJ on 3 Jul 2017, 11:59 pm
Oh man, that sucks!  I separated my shoulder riding mountain bike years ago, it's one of those injuries they can't really fix.
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Post by: S Clark on 4 Jul 2017, 12:58 am
Really sorry to hear that.  Hopefully it's a simple separation and heals quickly. 
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Post by: SoCalWJS on 4 Jul 2017, 01:13 am
Sorry to hear that he got hurt. Hope he gets well soon.
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Post by: invicta51 on 4 Jul 2017, 02:57 am
That's gotta hurt. Lay low for a while Danny. Get better quick.
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Post by: Armaegis on 4 Jul 2017, 04:54 am
Let's hope for a speedy recovery. On the bright side, a separated shoulder is way better than than a table saw through the hand...


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Title: Re: Out due to an injury
Post by: THROWBACK on 4 Jul 2017, 12:26 pm
Ouch! But at least now he has time to think about all those new projects he's been putting off.
Title: Re: Out due to an injury
Post by: sunnydaze on 4 Jul 2017, 01:43 pm
I had a serious Grade 4 A/C separation in 1983 at 28 years old.  Immediate ligament reconstruction surgery.  Pain so bad I couldn't eat and lost 20 lbs.

Since then I have needed 3 other surgeries to decompress the joint:  bone spurs, arthritis, rotator cuff impingement, etc.   Most recent one June 2016.  Recovery is very rough and looooooooooooooong.  13 mos and still hurting bad.  And full recovery never happens.

Not being dramatic in saying it has seriously impacted my life.  Constant pain for 34 yrs -- more than half my life -- and all the physical limitations it has imposed on what was previously a very active athletic lifestyle.

Then again, there are separations that recover quite well.  Depends on severity of injury.   Grades 1, 2 and even 3 have good outcomes with rest and PT.  Hope he has one of those! 

Grades 4, 5, and 6 require surgery as they are complete tears of all ligaments and displacement of the clavicle.
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Post by: KLH007 on 4 Jul 2017, 05:00 pm
Hope you heal quickly without lingering issues.
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Post by: DaveC113 on 4 Jul 2017, 05:07 pm
I had a grade 2 a few years ago and an impact last year that tore the rotator cuff muscles almost completely, tore the labrum and displaced connective tissue. 9 months later it's better but will take another year or so until my left side is fully symmetrical with my right side. The entire left side of my upper body got very emaciated....

Shoulder injuries require a lot of patience, and a lot of work... do your PT and best wishes for a quick and full recovery!  :)
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Post by: Odal3 on 4 Jul 2017, 05:37 pm
Hope you will have a speedy recovery
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Post by: JerryM on 4 Jul 2017, 06:17 pm
Having good thoughts for ya' Danny. Get better quick!  :weights:
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Post by: Jonathon Janusz on 5 Jul 2017, 02:39 am
Kris, am I remembering correctly that this is the second time Danny's had a shoulder go down?  If so, same one as last time or was it the other?

Danny, heal up well, and (yes, I know it is going to sound like a silly boys-will-be-boys kind of thing, but hey, the man paid for it!)  I hope you at least either scored or saved a goal on the slide/dive/tackle!  :beer:
Title: Re: Out due to an injury
Post by: Danny Richie on 5 Jul 2017, 03:43 pm
Kris, am I remembering correctly that this is the second time Danny's had a shoulder go down?  If so, same one as last time or was it the other?

Danny, heal up well, and (yes, I know it is going to sound like a silly boys-will-be-boys kind of thing, but hey, the man paid for it!)  I hope you at least either scored or saved a goal on the slide/dive/tackle!  :beer:

Yes four years ago I had the same injury on the other shoulder. It was a long healing process but I did fully recover from it. Hopefully I will recover as well from this one.

Right now I have manageable pain levels, and I am just fine if I lay still and don't move around too much.

I am typing very slowly with my left hand with a small lap top in my lap.

I have a ton of messages to go through so be patient guys and I will respond.
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Post by: Doublej on 5 Jul 2017, 04:08 pm
Consider using the built in voice recognition on your computer. It may significantly reduce the amount of typing you'll need to do.
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Post by: jimbones on 5 Jul 2017, 07:08 pm
Yes four years ago I had the same injury on the other shoulder. It was a long healing process but I did fully recover from it. Hopefully I will recover as well from this one.

Right now I have manageable pain levels, and I am just fine if I lay still and don't move around too much.

I am typing very slowly with my left hand with a small lap top in my lap.

I have a ton of messages to go through so be patient guys and I will respond.

OXY!!  ha ha. i had bi-lateral hip resurfacing and Oxy and TRamDol were my friend :)
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Post by: Phil A on 5 Jul 2017, 08:50 pm
Feel better.
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Post by: bdp24 on 6 Jul 2017, 01:02 am
Feel better.

And stop playing soccer!
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Post by: revg1952 on 6 Jul 2017, 01:29 am
Danny
 my prayers for a healthy recovery
Gary
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Post by: cleestedwood on 6 Jul 2017, 04:18 am
Wishing you a good and speedy recovery !
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Post by: rollo on 6 Jul 2017, 03:25 pm
  Well I hope you scored or stopped a goal. I'm still playing ball at 66 and loving it. Heal quickly and never stop playing.


charles
Title: Re: Out due to an injury
Post by: Peter J on 6 Jul 2017, 03:53 pm
Danny, I hope this works out in a favorable way for you.

It can't be much fun, particularly when you've got plenty on your plate that is somewhat dependent on that arm.


Title: Re: Out due to an injury
Post by: sunnydaze on 6 Jul 2017, 04:05 pm
  I'm still playing ball at 66 and loving it. Heal quickly and never stop playing.


charles

Spoken like someone who's never had a serious life-altering injury......
Title: Re: Out due to an injury
Post by: *Scotty* on 6 Jul 2017, 05:02 pm
sunnydaze, you misunderstood Charles.
 He is telling Danny to "heal quickly and never stop playing".
I too wish Danny a speedy recovery and a return to play, as I know he loves playing soccer.
Scotty
Title: Re: Out due to an injury
Post by: zybar on 6 Jul 2017, 05:55 pm
  Well I hope you scored or stopped a goal. I'm still playing ball at 66 and loving it. Heal quickly and never stop playing.


charles

After my 6th knee surgery I stopped playing ball.

I have had 3 more knee surgeries since that point.

No matter what you try, sometimes you do have to stop playing ball.  :-(

That said, I redirected myself to bike, swim, and do other activities to keep fit.

George
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Post by: ebag4 on 6 Jul 2017, 06:11 pm
Wishing you a speedy and full recovery Danny.

Best,
Ed
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Post by: Phil A on 6 Jul 2017, 06:51 pm
After my 6th knee surgery I stopped playing ball.

I have had 3 more knee surgeries since that point.

No matter what you try, sometimes you do have to stop playing ball.  :-(

That said, I redirected myself to bike, swim, and do other activities to keep fit.

George

Ouch.  I stopped doing stuff like that about 13-14 years back.  When I was 52/53 (65 now).  I helped a (non-audiophile) friend get a stereo at Best Buy.  He was 29 (and played soccer all the time) and I was 52 and we had to park 100 yards away and it was pouring ran.  He asked me if I could run and I asked him if he could catch me.  I spent the last 30 yards running backwards and laughing at him (it was no contest.  Within a year or so after that, I started swiftly coming to the conclusion that those days were behind me and getting further behind me fast.  I try to ride the bike or do other things now.
Title: Re: Out due to an injury
Post by: GregC on 6 Jul 2017, 09:48 pm
Hi Danny,

Sorry to hear about your shoulder injury. I hope you have a speedy and full recovery.

Greg

Title: Re: Out due to an injury
Post by: Danny Richie on 7 Jul 2017, 08:17 pm
Oh, once I fully recover I'll be right back out there. I love playing and can still play at a fairly high level.

I live by the saying that you don't quit playing when you get old. You get old when you quit playing.
Title: Re: Out due to an injury
Post by: jcotner on 8 Jul 2017, 06:54 am
I live by the saying that you don't quit playing when you get old. You get old when you quit playing.

Amen to that and I live by the same rule, except for an added line:
Just choose a game that is suitable for your age.  :D
I spend an hour and a half in the gym 6 days a week.
Hoping you have a speedy recovery.
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Post by: roscoe65 on 8 Jul 2017, 01:52 pm
Amen to that and I live by the same rule, except for an added line:
Just choose a game that is suitable for your age.  :D
I spend an hour and a half in the gym 6 days a week.
Hoping you have a speedy recovery.

I will second this for a couple of reasons.  Many of us labor under the delusion that our chosen sport will provide the physical activity we need.  However as we age this tends to lead to Weekend Warrior Syndrome.  Sometimes the only physical stresses we encounter are in competition (or snow shoveling).  We aren't training the supporting muscles, maintaining range of motion, or maintaining our recovery ability.  Staying in shape as we get older requires maintenance activity as well, activity which can be very tedious (hence most of us skip it).  I try to put in about six hours per week in the gym, and I have found that my workouts increasingly look less manly and more like a Jane Fonda workout video.  However, by changing mfy focus I am (in my 50's) adding muscle mass, increasing mobility and dramatically increasing my recovery ability.
Title: Re: Out due to an injury
Post by: DaveC113 on 8 Jul 2017, 03:18 pm
Just never stop doing squats and deadlifts!

I agree as you get older strength and flexibility must be maintained, it's a PITA but the results of skipping it are much worse.
Title: Re: Out due to an injury (update)
Post by: Danny Richie on 10 Jul 2017, 09:13 pm
New update 7-10-17.

I just got back from a visit to my chiropractor and a local hospital. My clavicle is broken also. And it has a slight deviation. So surgery is also possible. I'll know more later this week. And I am still in considerable discomfort to put it mildly.

Normally anything ordered with us early in the day ships that same day. And anything ordered from us later in the day ships the very next day. There now may be a slight delay of a day or two. I have someone here to help me with orders, but it is not going to go as fast as it normally does.

Please be patient. Orders will be filled and sent out as soon as possible.
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Post by: S Clark on 10 Jul 2017, 10:13 pm
That actually sounds like good news. Bones heal in a couple of months; ligaments and cartilage are not so easily repaired.
Title: Re: Out due to an injury (update)
Post by: Danny Richie on 10 Jul 2017, 10:19 pm
That actually sounds like good news. Bones heal in a couple of months; ligaments and cartilage are not so easily repaired.

That's true. But getting through these first few weeks is going to be tough. Everything is painful right now.

At least I am getting better at typing with one hand.
Title: Re: Out due to an injury (update)
Post by: Doublej on 10 Jul 2017, 10:29 pm
You had a broken, as snapped into two pieces, collarbone for a week before you knew it? You are one tough mofo.
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Post by: Wind Chaser on 10 Jul 2017, 10:59 pm
You had a broken, as snapped into two pieces, collarbone for a week before you knew it? You are one tough mofo.

That reminds me of my mom, a few years ago, she fell and broke her hip. She waited a full week before going to the hospital. The doctors couldn't believe it. She was 80 years old at the time.
Title: Re: Out due to an injury (update)
Post by: Danny Richie on 10 Jul 2017, 11:51 pm
You had a broken, as snapped into two pieces, collarbone for a week before you knew it? You are one tough mofo.

That's what the chiropractor said.

I just thought I separated the shoulder. I did that once on the other shoulder. But when the swelling went down I could tell that part of the collar bone was out of place.
Title: Re: Out due to an injury (update)
Post by: JakeJ on 11 Jul 2017, 01:54 am
If it is broken and not separated then I agree it's probably better.  My separated shoulder has never been the same.
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Post by: sunnydaze on 11 Jul 2017, 02:42 am
Just thought you separated the shoulder??!    :o

Trust me....you're better of with a broken collarbone.  Severe A/C separation means all ligaments are completely ruptured.  Always worse than a broken bone.

I'm 4 surgeries and 34 years down the road after my A/C separation.  Pain and dysfunctional joint the entire time.  It's brutal.

I wish you well in your recovery, whatever your injury is.



Title: Re: Out due to an injury (update)
Post by: Danny Richie on 11 Jul 2017, 04:14 am
Just thought you separated the shoulder??!    :o

Trust me....you're better of with a broken collarbone.  Severe A/C separation means all ligaments are completely ruptured.  Always worse than a broken bone.

I'm 4 surgeries and 34 years down the road after my A/C separation.  Pain and dysfunctional joint the entire time.  It's brutal.

I wish you well in your recovery, whatever your injury is.

Mam, I hate to hear that. I had a level 1 separation 4 years ago and I completely recovered from it.
Title: Re: Out due to an injury (update)
Post by: mlundy57 on 11 Jul 2017, 04:40 am
A break isn't necessarily good either. I was in a car accident over 20 years ago that broke my left shoulder blade and top 2 ribs. I didn't have decent health insurance so got patched up in the ER and a figure 8 brace. No physical therapy or much else. Plus had to go back to manual factory labor after 3 weeks. To this day I don't have full range of motion without a catch at about shoulder height and go through interment spells where almost any movement is painful. Sometimes mild, others moderate or more.

So don't overextend. Let things heal properly and get appropriate physical therapy.

Title: Re: Out due to an injury (update)
Post by: JakeJ on 11 Jul 2017, 12:10 pm
Wow, mlundy, that's another bad medical story.  Sorry to hear that.  I have good range of motion and no pain to speak of but that may change with age.

Now my right shoulder that suffered a torn rotator cuff and had surgery plus PT, that bugger is giving me pain almost every morning. :cuss:
Title: Re: Out due to an injury (update)
Post by: sunnydaze on 11 Jul 2017, 12:37 pm
Mam, I hate to hear that. I had a level 1 separation 4 years ago and I completely recovered from it.

Grade 1 A/C separations are very minor injuries, they heal 100%.  It's no different than a mild ankle sprain in that it's a very slight tear to one of the ligaments.

The bad A/C separations are Grades 4, 5 and 6.  At this level, every ligament is completely ruptured, and the Grade indicates how / where the clavicle is displaced.  That is, where it has moved to vs. its correct anatomical position.  They always require surgery.  Lower grades are treated with rest, ice and PT.

I had a Grade 4.  I'd be very happy if the pain was intermittent and in the mild / moderate category.
Title: Re: Out due to an injury (update)
Post by: Danny Richie on 11 Jul 2017, 01:53 pm
Man, I am sorry to hear that sunnydaze.
Title: Re: Out due to an injury (update)
Post by: Danny Richie on 17 Jul 2017, 10:46 pm
I just got back from the visit with the orthopedic specialist. About half of the displacement is gone and the bones are fairly well lined up. So no surgery. Now I just haft to keep my arm still for two more weeks and not pick up anything. If the next X-ray looks good then I can start some mobility movements.
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Post by: ebag4 on 17 Jul 2017, 11:17 pm
That's good news Danny, thanks for the update.  :thumb:

Best,
Ed
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Post by: Phil A on 17 Jul 2017, 11:28 pm
Good news for sure
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Post by: rajesh on 17 Jul 2017, 11:32 pm
Oops. Just saw the thread. Get well soon Danny.
Title: Re: Out due to an injury (update)
Post by: JakeJ on 18 Jul 2017, 12:58 am
Congrats on the no surgery call.  GWS.
Title: Re: Out due to an injury (update)
Post by: mlundy57 on 18 Jul 2017, 01:06 am
I just got back from the visit with the orthopedic specialist. About half of the displacement is gone and the bones are fairly well lined up. So no surgery. Now I just haft to keep my arm still for two more weeks and not pick up anything. If the next X-ray looks good then I can start some mobility movements.

That's good  :thumb:

Mike
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Post by: cleestedwood on 18 Jul 2017, 02:49 am
Do you need a driver for the S-10 while you are re-couperating ?
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Post by: EdRo on 18 Jul 2017, 03:00 am
Patience can help you heal faster. I kept trying to use my split thumb and it took longer to heal. Stay the course lad, stay the course!
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Post by: S Clark on 18 Jul 2017, 03:58 am
Yep just take it easy and keep that arm immobilized. 
Now I know it's hard on cars to sit, so if you need me to drive up and take your Vette for a drive in the country. I know Kristy has her hands full with the move, taking care of you, etc...  Or I could just come up to Iowa Park, and drive it back to Abilene.  You don't have to thank me, that's what friends are for.   :thumb:
Title: Re: Out due to an injury (update)
Post by: JakeJ on 18 Jul 2017, 04:19 am
^ :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Wait..what, you're moving again? Isn't that like three times in two years?
Title: Re: Out due to an injury (update)
Post by: Douger on 18 Jul 2017, 04:22 am
Get well soon and stay there!!
Title: Re: Out due to an injury (update)
Post by: KLH007 on 18 Jul 2017, 02:25 pm
That's good news Danny, follow the Dr.'s orders and let it heal.
Title: Re: Out due to an injury (update)
Post by: Danny Richie on 18 Jul 2017, 03:16 pm
Do you need a driver for the S-10 while you are re-couperating ?

Yeah, we might need a new driver for the Summers Last Blast race in August.
Title: Re: Out due to an injury (update)
Post by: Danny Richie on 18 Jul 2017, 03:17 pm
Yep just take it easy and keep that arm immobilized. 
Now I know it's hard on cars to sit, so if you need me to drive up and take your Vette for a drive in the country. I know Kristy has her hands full with the move, taking care of you, etc...  Or I could just come up to Iowa Park, and drive it back to Abilene.  You don't have to thank me, that's what friends are for.   :thumb:

Oh I can still drive that one with one hand. It rides really smooth too.
Title: Re: Out due to an injury (update)
Post by: AJinFLA on 18 Jul 2017, 04:25 pm
It's time Danny http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/fifa-17 (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/fifa-17)
Title: Re: Out due to an injury (update)
Post by: Danny Richie on 18 Jul 2017, 05:00 pm
It's time Danny http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/fifa-17 (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/fifa-17)

Ha, Ha
Title: Re: Out due to an injury (update)
Post by: Triode Pete on 18 Jul 2017, 08:41 pm
I just got back from the visit with the orthopedic specialist. About half of the displacement is gone and the bones are fairly well lined up. So no surgery. Now I just haft to keep my arm still for two more weeks and not pick up anything. If the next X-ray looks good then I can start some mobility movements.

We wish you a very speedy recovery!

Best regards,
Pete